Battlegrounds have become infested with premade honor farmers and as a result, most games are dediced in the queue. Which side has the premade team on their side wins 99% of the time. Once a premade is discovered from the score tab motivation is lost and players go semi-afk.
This issue could be easily solved by making premade teams face exclusively other premade teams. This would make the honor farmers actually have to work for their honor. And those people who try play battlegrounds for fun could do so in their solo queue games against other solo queue players. Keyword here being try because 90% of games you get in the queue are randoms vs. premades, and there is nothing fun about these games when every enemy is walking around with his own private healer while your team has no healers at all.
Solo queue players are pretty much used to provide instant queues for these honor farmers. The situation is unfair and overall bad for the game as nobody can enjoy this.
What? Are you really telling me that in a Game with Multiplayer in the genre-name cooperation and communication is giving you an edge over people unwilling to communicate and cooperate with others?
Outrageous!!! Stop this right now. I propose the following solution! Create an alternative queue where all other players in the BG are just Bots, so people who are not willing to play the actual multiplayer part of a multiplayer game can enjoy the game. We are all paying 13 ā¬ after all and should all have the game cater to our specific tastes!!!
And anybody else that doesnāt mindlessly agree with his stupidity.
Edit: Oh yeah, he hates paying for respecs too.
They do work like that. Beyondo just likes to exaggerate everything.
The thing is, when a premade of 8 signs up, they canāt play 8 v 10. So the queue throws 2 randos with them too. Only, Beyondo thinks 2 randos shouldnāt be thrown in and the team of 8 should just not play.
Because heaven forbid having friends in this game.
Blizzard only obscured the situation. Now instead of full 15-, 10-man premades, we are fighting against multiple small groups because only premades with 6 or more members are matched exclusively against other premade groups. It is entirely possible to have 15 man AB roster consisting fully of 2-, 3-, 4- and 5-man groups and they get matched against solo queue players because with Blizzard logic: 5+4+4+2 is not +6 man premade.
These obscured premades are likely to have more healers than conventional full blown 15-man premades because these groups usually join with a healer. This reflects the reality of the battlegrounds. Solo queue players often cannot even get a single killing blow because almost everyone in the opposing team is walking around in there with his own private healer.
Solo queue should be entirely separate phenomenon from the join as group games, because when any size organized group meets solo players, the organized group is very likely to win.
It is easy to fix this problem by limit premade group to party one, to max 5 ppl.
So few friends can still play together and have fun but there is no impact on game like is full premade.
But I dont think those new retail āthe Ion Hazzikostas groupā devs will do anything to fix BGs, they simply got no feeling for game and worst thing Blizzard as company ever did is to give THEM to remake Classic expansions.
Developers who ruined entire retail WoW are not capable to revive good old expansions, look these nerfs and tons of gifted gearā¦ they forgot how much gear matter in classic but they continue to make gear free like in retailā¦
Even easier solution is to make join as group games separate from solo queue games. It would probably increase queue times slightly but that could be fixed by doing what you suggested: Limit join as group sizes to 2, 3 and 5 and full.
This way BG would be easier to fill and the need for solo fillers would be eliminated because 2 and 3 size groups are probably the most common sizes, and they build up nicely to 10 and 15.
Making premade vs premade and pug vs pug would make everyone happy. It would give everyone what they want. The premades could communicate their butts off in this social game. And the pluggers would have their fun. Whatās the problem? Oh i get it, then oremaders wouldnāt get to stomp anymore I would guess people in premades who would like full communication on disc and so on, would want to meet other teams with full communication and so on too, or ?
In my opinion it just should be, premade vs premade.
I think, itās just a bad design, if a premade playes vs randoms. It is important to have fun and if i want to play with my friends, its just not a challenge! At another time, i am playing alone and itās just not fun, to canāt do anything, because you have to fight against premades!
Yes wow had SOME strange things, because it was a young mmorpg in 2006. but now itās 2022 and blizzard told us:
World of Warcraft: The burning Crusade Classic āsome changeā!
This āsome changeā were just a punch in anyones face. We got a nerf to drums, the seals of paladins for both factions, horde vs horde and a character boost. Nothing else happened. So the āsome changeā are a dumb joke!
In my opinion, some changes should include a few changes and not 1-2 changes to bring 58 boosts. But thats the reallity!
Tier 6 raids are a joke! We got āsome changesā and blizzard didnāt do anything, to make it an epic adventure!
Premade vs randoms are a joke, because we should get āsome changesā!
We got layers but nothing else. If a server is dead or the population are bad as hell, you have to pay to have fun to play the game. Butā¦ blizzard told us āSome Changesā!
It was just a move to bring the 58 boosts and ruin tbc from the beginning. Blizzard doesnāt care about anything else.
I really love classic, tbc and wotlk but SOME things were dumb. And if SOME things are really dumb, they should Change SOME things or the argument of SOME CHANGE isnāt correct!
In my opinion it just should be, premade vs premade.
I think, itās just a bad design, if a premade playes vs randoms. It is important to have fun and if i want to play with my friends, its just not a challenge! At another time, i am playing alone and itās just not fun, to canāt do anything, because you have to fight against premades!
Yes wow had SOME strange things, because it was a young mmorpg in 2006. but now itās 2022 and blizzard told us:
World of Warcraft: The burning Crusade Classic āsome changeā!
This āsome changeā were just a punch in anyones face. We got a nerf to drums, the seals of paladins for both factions, horde vs horde and a character boost. Nothing else happened. So the āsome changeā are a dumb joke!
In my opinion, some changes should include a few changes and not 1-2 changes to bring 58 boosts. But thats the reallity!
Tier 6 raids are a joke! We got āsome changesā and blizzard didnāt do anything, to make it an epic adventure!
Premade vs randoms are a joke, because we should get āsome changesā!
We got layers but nothing else. If a server is dead or the population are bad as hell, you have to pay to have fun to play the game. Butā¦ blizzard told us āSome Changesā!
It was just a move to bring the 58 boosts and ruin tbc from the beginning. Blizzard doesnāt care about anything else.
I really love classic, tbc and wotlk but SOME things were dumb. And if SOME things are really dumb, they should Change SOME things or the argument of SOME CHANGE isnāt correct!
I would guess people in premades who would like full communication on disc and so on, would want to meet other teams with full communication and so on too, or ?