there are lot of people that just want to tame a lot of pets and want to be able to summon them , but with beast master we’re limited in the number of tamed pets like wtf make us tame all the creatures in a system like pet battles and mounts and stuff , why i’ve to abandon my old pets just to tame another new beast in a new released map/ expansion .
Also just imagine if the beast we tame will actually keep its abilities that it had before it was tamed , well that’s a dream far to reach in wow ,
this new system of every pet do the same thing like the other ones in its family type sucks honestly ,
at least before there was a pet that revives , one that lusts one that heals but now basically all the pets do the same things and it’s just the “skin” of the pet that’s different ,
i mean basically there’s no difference between exotic beasts and normal beasts ,
and the one that are actually cool and with cool ablilities like that wyvern that breaths fire and the pets that digs underground we’re not able to use them because we can’t use their abilities and kill command or have them beast cleave at the same time
it’s actually sad to see how all the other games fit the fantasy of a “beast master” right mean while in wow u get to have two beasts take it or leave it ,
the unholy dk and diabolist are more of a beast masters than the beast master .
i don’t care if the class is melee or even cast for 5s , i just wanted to have a class that fits the fantasy of taming and summonig bunch of beasts and people will get to be a real pack leader not like this thing posted lately called “pack leader hero tree” or something ,
i can’t believe i was hyped and waited for months and in the end we got that hero tree,
hopefully maybe in the future blizz will create a new class that only focus on beasts and only beasts and maybe call it zoo keeper or something and rename this "beast master " class to a “kill command class” or let the demonist class team take care of the beast master class
people who don’t like pets at all should play marksman ,
people who don’t want many pets to handle but he’s ok with one pet should play survival or marksman ,
people who just love taming tons of pets and summoning them should have a spec that makes them able to do that and that spec should be beast master .
The only class that tames beasts is beast master so it’s only fair that we would be able to summon those beasts ,
and beast master should be ‘zoo style’ beacuse its after all u are a "beast " master , if people don’t like handling beasts why play “beastmaster” class then just play other hunter class that doesn’t require beasts ?
the beast master is found basically in every game and have its own fans , it’s not always classified under hunter , but it has the theme of summoning / having a lot of active pets , lot of people love taming beasts and collecting them and love to fight alongside of those beasts , and there’s no other class that makes us able to do that.
Personnaly i started playing wow just to collect pets and pet battles , and sometime match my mount with my two pets and pet battle and i’m not able to do that with demo and unholy ( i’m not much into raids and mythic dngns but i do my fair share in them) so if they take that from us i’ve no reason to continue playing wow xD
Blizzard just made the beast master class as a sacrificial sheep , they made it an easy and simple class for beginners and for people who don’t want to play a hard class so that’s why they will never change anything in the playstyle of it because those people won’t accept any change and want this poor class to be always simple , and u can see them commenting all over the forums
I started playing in legion,
There are many cool pets and beasts out there to tame so u want to collect all of them honestly ,
if u aren’t interested in collecting stuff like pet battles , mounts and toys I don’t think u will be interested in collecting pets that’s why probably u won’t care about stable slots
If you just want to collect pets make more then 1 hunter you can make many hunters and have different pets on them to get all the different looks you want if collecting is all you care about.
You do not need to have them all on 1 hunter if you are just collecting.
yup ofc, that pet is cool , my favorite ones is Vilewing Chimaera with his frost breath ability and the mechanical scorpion
it’s true that this is the only solution we have now , i just stated that there’s no reason behind limiting the pet slot for hunters ,
it’s always nice to have everything on ur main too so that u can customize ur transmo and ur mount and ur pet battle with ur two pets ( though for now i can only do this with the hound pet and mechanical scorpion pet )
The “don’t like pets, play other specs, hurhur” argument has never been, and never will be, any sort of good.
I LOVE playing with pets, which is WHY BM has had a soft spot in my heart since TBC. However since a few years back, and especially this expansion, the core identity of the “Big Red Kitty” (iykyk) has shifted completely into this horrendous budget version of the current demonology warlock- which also lostits identity for this garbage fantasy (boomkins aren’t that far off with recent changes).
The current iteration of Survival feels more like a beast master than said spec, it even HAS talents and active abilities to BOOST the pet damage and KC- The Spearhead line. It’s just too bad SV isn’t as ideal in the competitive scene (speaking from M+ PoV currently).
Which leaves you with Marksman, whom never should have had a pet attached to it to begin with. However someone at this indie company has no clear idea what to do with the spec currently.
Also I think you sincerely would appreciate playing a demo warlock more. From the sound of things, and going by your posts, you want to be a summoner, but enjoy taming different pets. Yet OP have this twisted notion of BEAST MASTER = (beast) summoner. Even circus ring leaders/animal handlers bring out a maximum of 5 animals, preferably less.
Warlocks has now a lot of pet skins to unlock and customize- and coming expansion are going to make them summon even more clutter (ugh).
I still think BM should have become the melee spec and I’ve said it before, SV is more BM than BM is atm. Only real difference between BM and SV right now is that one uses bows and the other uses swords/spears/axes. Old SV was far more different to MM than new SV is to BM.
I have played meele sv a lot and it was fun but because you got so many range abilitys
I still think all Hunter specc should be range
Sv more Poisen trap and avoiding fight playstlye maybe bring better better carmo for SV
Bm atm. Is fitting
An MM no Pet sniper archer
People are allowed to enjoy different iterations of the spec. It is not for people like you to say ‘you should not be playing this, play warlock if you like to summon’. I personally like the idea of spawning pets in during battle and I want to play as a hunter so this is what I play. Multiple viable options within the talent tree should be the thing you are asking for, not telling people the version of BM they like is wrong.
Adapt and overcome. The very essence of what it means to be a hunter
By far the biggest BM (and Hunter in general) problem is a lack of survivability. Our DPS is reasonable in almost all scenarios, however in higher keys I feel quite squishy.
In its current state, It makes absolutely zero sense that BM can tame Exotic pets. They are some of most rare and hard to tame pets, yet they are worthless in every scenario, except for maybe the devilsaur since it has mortal wound.
And its blizzard fault alone, they nerfed spirit heal to hard.
BM hunters should be able to reclass and respec pets in their stable.
I can understand your viewpoint. But after collecting pets for couple of years or even decades like i have done.
I have kinda lost interest now, because they just sit in the stable and you dont use them. I strongly think every exotic pet should be superior to regular pets since BM should be all about having superior pets compared to SV and MM.
Yet every single guide outthere just say go with UD raptor for pvp
Temporary solution to this is the Fyrakk tank trinket. In high keys where the tank is doing big pulls (which favour specs like BM that aren’t target capped), the dps loss is minimal.
This is the problem I have with all three of the “pet focused” specs (BM Hunter, Demo 'lock and Unholy DK) they’re all rapidly converging on the “mass summoner” archetype. Which makes them all feel a bit samey (even if the rotation and armour types are different they still “look” the same - me a my army of pets).
In my opinion they should be:
BM Hunter - Leans heavily on the One Man and His Dog (/Wolf/Devilsaur/Spirit Beast), forms a close bond with a single pet with whom he works in harmony to bring down his foes (there’s no reason he can’t call on other animals to help with a specific task - e.g.call on a cat to pounce and stun his enemy, but they dont have about after that)
Demo 'lock - Focuses on summoning a small number of powerful demons for a short time, quite flexible and able to adapt the summons to the situation (their motto should be “I’ve got a Demon for that”)
Unholy DK - The swarm summoner, maintains a constant army of fragile undead depending on weight of numbers rather than “hard hits” to wear down the enemy (quantity over quality)
I believe the philosophy is that you should be able to use whatever two pets you like as your primary pets and not be forced to choose a specific pet - If you made exotic pets superior to regular pets then as BM you’d feel required to bring an exotic pet to group activity as they’re “better”, so if you want to be a BM with a wolf… good luck finding a group.
