Bel'ameth - Arms of the Goddess

[Moontear-ravencrest (Moontear)]

@Suldareen-kilrogg

I think the purpose of Amirdrassil is to serve as a retreat for Night Elves people.

Well, i thought they getting new city here but after cinematic i think the same. Retreat till Midnight.

[Hydrargiros-tyrande]

@Kotara-stormrage

I found it a bit weird TBH, i understand wanting to reclaim their lands, but Teldrassil? What is Bel’Ameth supposed to be then?

The capital.

You can rebuild telldrasil and not change the purpose of Bel Ameth.

Is compatible.
The same way that keeping investing in other kaldorei settlement doesn’t mean you are not investing in Bel Ameth.

Is just a matter of reclaiming what was broken. Doesn’t need to fulfil the same exact purpose

[Dralkharn-draenor]

@Kotara-stormrage

Yeah, and how it’s in-game is what truly matters,

Literally bfa in-game cinematics show it like a tree.
Do you consider in-game cinematics non-canon?

[Kotara-stormrage]

I take what i see in actual gameplay over some heavily embellished cinematic, yes.

[Furyeclipser-stormscale]

What if major catastrophe happens at some point during sagas? (Last titan phase most likely) All this work will be for nothing.

[Dralkharn-draenor]

Nonsense, mental gymnastics

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

I really enjoyed the cinematic and the peaceful island as a whole. I went and explored after I did the quest.

[Starstride-nordrassil (Starstride)]

@Nim-steamwheedle-cartel

And lots of tree houses! People seemed upset there was no city so I assume they wanted a city atop a tree like Teldrassil. I prefer the village aesthetics personally

no Tree houses - not for the night elves, not with something as incredibly beautiful as zin’Azsahri in the cinematics or Suramar in game - the sort of things night elves build for cities. Now that is epic, and we should have the full variety of night elf stuff for the night elf playable race right? not just the forest stuff. Tree homes are only the lone druidic outposts or mobile war bases and that’s the only place/time I expect to see them. Besides if the kaldorei were to march today, with the returned Highborne and demon hunters they’d have a much larger arsenal and war machine than what we saw in WC3, which is why I was annoyed with the Suramar showing - when the sentinels turned up with 1 ancient protector - no druids, no Highborne, no demon hunters.

Besides druids don’t typically live in those things anyway, most druids live underground in barrow dens, to commune fully with nature and sleep. Tree houses is for the lonely watch post in the middle of the pristine forest, UNTOUCHED by sentient beings - this is why the elves druids live under the trees in caves - and then tend their forest in animal disguises - they match the tranquillity of the dream, this is perfection to them.

And those are the DRUIDS, not the entire night elf race. Not all night elves are druids, they love nature but they would have a city - and kaldorei cities are BEAUTIFUL, marble buildings but also rich in nature with lots of gardens, parks, rooftop gardens, treants, protectors etc, but it’s a city, advanced, (not an over grown rural village) - it’s that I (and I believe many Nelf fans) want to see, I don’t see why the kaldorei have beautiful cities but we can’t have any of that for the playable race, and also beautiful forests - so only the forests?

Bel’ameth should remain as is, a city should be on the outskirts with the elegant marble structures with Elune’s arcane energy pulsing through it and the arcane energy of the leylines, moonwells that would be there.

Remember night elves have urban architecture -which are the cities with marble structures Darnassus, Suramar, Zin’Asahri, Eldre’thalas, Nar’thalas, Vash’jir, then they have rural structures, you would have a druid outpost tree like you see in Aldrassil or Feathermoon stronghold/Dolonaar, and those lodges - like in Auberdine …usually as ins. Note how htey only place the druids in the top of those tree convertors, but as leaders, most of the time it’s has other people, the place where most of the druids are are in the barrow dens. But those are for hte rural communities and the mobile warbases that were used in warcraft 3, now we have also been shown some of the actual proper night elf cities, a totally different style set (which is normal when they show us cities versus villages), and well, it’s breathtaking, you want more stuff like that for a night elf city , and the tree homes for the rural villages.

@Kotara-stormrage

A city on top of the tree would be a silly idea IMO, especially since Amirdrassil is actually shaped like a tree.

Having the grounds around Amirdrassil filled with Kaldorei towns and Bel’Ameth itself, that would be amazing, though. (Just make the skybox and lighting a bit more “Night”-like, like Ashenvale, for instance)

It could be on top, like in Teldrassil, remember Teldrassil only looked like a stump in game because of engine limitations, not because it was actually a stomp. If designed right it could be amazing. An alternative that could also work I think would be on those hilly islands that surround Amirdrassil island like arms “arms of the goddess”. whiles the actual Amirdrassil island remains a nature paradise, then you have the buildings of an incredibly beautiful city on the hills and plains and then a small bit at the ship docks on the coast line of the island. The alternative would be platforms with buildings suspended in the air, like where we fight Tindrall in ATDH - however those existed in the Emerald dream, so I don’t know.

@Punyelf-draenor

I really enjoyed the cinematic and the peaceful island as a whole. I went and explored after I did the quest.

Yes, which is why I don’t want the actual island changed, it’s beautiful and idyllic as is. Night elves still need a capital city tough and one as gorgeous and lovely as the best they’ve ever done (like Suramar and Zin’Azshari) to have that other view of them represented in game and giving them much needed diversity and showing their lore renowned epic civilization and arcane magical legendary.

but where to put it? in the tree like Teldrassil had it could work, or on platforms a like where we fight Tindrall or the city could be on the islands’ that enclose the tree’s island like arms.

Other alternatives are just revamp Eldre’thalas, or open up Suramar for the kaldorei to return to their home city, and have a portal from Suramar and Eldre’thalas to Amirdrassil.

[Moonbirb-doomhammer]

@Starstride-nordrassil

but where to put it? in the tree like Teldrassil had it could work, or on platforms a like where we fight Tindrall or the city could be on the islands’ that enclose the tree’s island like arms.

There’s also a third option.

Let’s create a new city inside the tree. In the fight against Fyrakk we see vast, almost infinite amount of space there. Thanks to the druids, we could spread the leaves on which we fight, so that they can spread in empty space. We could’ve built buildings on them when built the temples of Elune around the heart of Amidrassil.

They don’t have to change the appearance of Bel’ameth and can leave it in the wild druidic style when inside the tree we go full Elune/moon/star/night and Ardenweald aesthetic.

The fans of both Kaldorei styles win.

[Starstride-nordrassil (Starstride)]

That is also a possibility, a bit like Shaladrassil that the stuff was inside the tree.

My biggest qualms about that, is that as night elves, they would want the stars, unless the tree was a pocket dimension in the stars - that could work, or the top was opened up to the heavens. That could also work… . that is an interesting take. I woudl be up for htat too if we could see the stars and it had that night feel. then you could have hte inverse of things, arcane civilziation based city in nature tree , surrounded by nature