Best class for pugging mythic+

I`m currently playing mage for mythic+ but it is really hard class for pugs. And it is really hard to play. My only source of damage is building ignites and it is frustating in pugs. I only do decent damage during combust if there is big pull and i dont want to depend on tank pulls to do dps. It is annoying when i save my combust for big pulls and tank is slowly pulling for 5 mins and after i finally use my combust on small pack tank pulls everything in dungeon and even healer gets better damage than me :smiley:. Or when i combust i cced from 3k arena rating mobs like in pvp constantly or disturbed by affixes and combust is gone.
I just want to play different class where my damage doesnt depend on 2 min cd and very easy to play and good option for mythic+ pugging. Which class/spec do you suggest ?

Demon Hunter, hands down. They’ll get invited ALL THE TIME, cause even a mediocre player can do competent DPS with them. :stuck_out_tongue:

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BM hunter, Unholy DK because of MDI model…

Respec to Frost :roll_eyes:

I never invite DH,they either extremely good or extremely bad not worth gambling.
I agree with Mindy Bm is very good.

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Hate to say it, but try frost? It doesn’t have the same dependency on a tank who works with you. Not sure why people think only fire is relevant to M+ :slight_smile:

Failing that; go tank or healer. Tanks especially will still be invited when they’re 5-10 ilvls too low.

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Yep. I did tank UR+15 @453ilvl… Fortified was ok, I loved it… tyrannical, worst experience of my life :disappointed:

As people have already said. Yes, fire is the current meta. But its mostly for organized groups. Where the group can play around the combustion (combust at big boy pulls then smaller pulls) since fire is pretty much: when combust is on - god mode. When its off - useless.
Obviosly pugs doesn’t care much about your combust cds and pulls how they like it. Hence frost may do a bit less numbers but its flexible and can adjust to any route or tanking-style.

As for the first 1 question. I am not sure how high you are planning to go. But for example at weekly chore level, and +16s - +18s.
The class prio:
Tanks - any class. At +15- +18s level people more care about getting a tank than what class is that tank. Since tanks are always a shortage and people will always give them “freecards” when it comes to invites.
Healers - I would also say any class. But peps tend to like druids more. Probs, cause of CR(and the meta)
DPS - DH, rogues, hunters. Pretty much the meta.

Yeah i tried frost but frost is really week or i cant play it. I tried different builds and it is really weak. And i want to play something else than mage for example warlock animations look cool, i m not sure. I m literally getting tired with playing my fire mage. In raids fire mage is fun there is not much to worry about. But in mythic+ it is nightmare. My level 114 rogue deals more aoe damage than my fully geared fire mage outside of combustion (rogue has leg cloak from legion buffs fan of knives and there is talents that buffs it again it is really fun but cant use it above 115 anymore.)
People think fire is relevant to m+ in low keys are dont know anything about m+. Most of the time tank pulls one by one every single creature in dungeon. If you are not planning big pulls around fire mage why inv him anyway ? In high keys fire is just the best if you have coordination with tank. I played with friend who makes pulls for me it was great to see 400k+ dps while others are barerly do 150ks with td procs :smiley:. But anyway it is exhausting to play. I just want to relax while playing this game. Dhs seems good option everyone is making fun of them for 4 button class. But leather transmog is awful.
I dont want to play healer or tank. They also have to plan so many things just show me enemy and i dps :smiley:

Tanks may have to plan things, healers… not so much. Especially if you’re a druid: HoT up, go kitty. Drop out of it to heal the tank or CC something from time to time, done.

If you want to DPS for sure, Unholy DK is also easy to play, and brings fun numbers too.

(Exaggerating, of course, but I found resto druid fairly easy to play in m+.)

Forget dps if you want a smooth pug experience. There’s too much dps’s going around. Roll a healer or a tank. Pally can play all 3 roles, but it is kinda boring. Prot warrior is a fun tank. DH is viable too, but only because it can tank, even if DH is a really boring class to play.

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I find BM hunter is a very chill thing to have as an alt. Not too many buttons, I don’t get tied up in thinking about what to press because it’s obvious, very capable solo or in a team; gives me a lot of time to watch what else is going on and actually do things like avoid mechanics :slight_smile:

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I honestly think the only reason you find fire mages difficult to play in m+ is because, well, it’s difficult to play the spec well. The fact that the pulls are uncoordinated is always a nice excuse, though.

Don’t take this the wrong way though. I’m merely arguing that fire mage is actually not bad in pugs, but people just lack the ability to play it to it’s actual potential. If you’re looking for an easy spec in m+, I’m sure there are better options.

I just don’t want to see the mentality of “I don’t perform that well because of variables beyond my control”. It completely halts your own personal progression as a player, and it won’t do you any good.

I tried to pug a +13 King’s Rest today, I was doing 40% of the groups DPS as a noob arms player, don’t say pugging to me.

Screw you boosters, I tried to sort out the boosted ones for 10 min, imagine having 15k DPS with 2k rio.

You can track their average dps in the dungeon via rio can you not?

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I don’t know, I enable only main component and EU Alliance Mythic options of the addon, gonna take a look at it, ty.

Some forum DH’s mention the class is hard although it has 3 keys… There is alot of depth to it and its not as easy as we common people think ^^

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They sometimes lose themselves while spamming those 3 buttons in arena and LOS their healers with the spam adrenaline, then I behead them while laughing… DH players are strange.

BM hunter, yes.
Unholy DK, not really, especially in a pug environment.

No pug group would do suicidal level mass pull like MDI for unholy dk to shine. Unholy dk aoe has cd and long ramping up time.

For normal pugs with frequent smaller pulls, DH, Hunter, rogue aoe is more efficient.

I would say BM hunter (damage, mobility), DH (damage, self-sustain), and rogue (damage, shroud) are safer bet for pugs.

BM hunter is especially good, both single target and aoe. Affixes like sanguine and quaking can be annoying for melee, but nothing would stop BM dps.