Since when frost dk is S tier?
Frost dk cant carry anything on their own because they lack survivals mainly heal and proper peel so you or your healer die most of the time before you get to do your combo second or third time.
Unless you are with very good healer you cant really climb with frost dk, you are way more healer depended than good specs.
If people can react and use their defensives and trinkets and rotate them frost is b tier.
You are talking mainly about 2s in assume?
In 3s you are essentially super strong because of the utility and the setup you can provide to the main dps. ( Warriors, Monks for exemple).
Again, we are not talking about only 2V2âs but also 3s, just can for sure, hold your own in 2s with a good offensive healer.
A Warrior canât carry a bad healer either, thatâs a bad argument. They have great utility and great sustain damage.
B tier is really a very big stretch, FDK have problems with consistent damage but itâs not that bad for being B tierâŠ
It is S tier for me, I can argue for A tier, but B tier is really not right.
No im talking about both 2s and 3s, you cant survive 2 mins with frost dk without strong healers, DS heals for nothing.
You cant save your healers with frost dk yes you have chains and grips but that is not enough if healer is not very good we dont have intervene, overwatch or constant damage pressure so no we have no real peels compared to other specs.
WW, Retri, Arms S tier Frost is A at max imo B.
All these specs have way more peel or constant damage so they are better melees.
Letâs be honest, unholy is below E tier. 
Sorry for semi hijacking this but what do you think is currently stronger, enh or ele in 2s/3s?
I see both specs quite strong with the available burst but I feel like the setup required to burst from an ele shaman is so big that it can be easily shut down by multiple sources where enh canât be shut down by so many things.
Ele burst can be shut down by grounding totem, deff CDS, an interrupt if there are not proccs available at the given time, CC, walking out of LoS or simply dispelling Flame Shock.
Whereâs enh can just be shut down/countered by CC or deff Cds⊠LoS too ofc but you get the gist.
Ele is more reliable, for me itâs a very strong spec, with lotâs of possible comps.
Enhancement is strong but people generally cc when enh bursts.
I havenât faced either of them in a long time, but Iâd say ele might be slightly better in 2v2 if played with a holy priest or resto druid.
In 3s Iâd say theyâre overall equal, you can play turbo as enh which is next level broken but you could also play something like ele+fire which is also next level broken.
Ele also gets shut down pretty quickly when people notice youâre about to burst. See Primordeal Wave and Storm Keeper? GTFO asap, put down a grounding/spell reflect, interrupt him, or CC him.
I gave affl + ele and destro + ele a shot in 3s yesterday and it felt like we had no pressure outside of my (ele) burst which wasnât always quite enough to seal the deal.
Considering giving thunder cleave a shot for consistent pressure from the warrior with high burst on top of it from me as an ele shaman.
Either that or go full zug zug with turbo⊠thatâd require me to craft a new lego though and switch my covenant which kinda sucks.
I think ele has a higher representation in rbgs and probably m+ though.
Iâd enjoy enh, always has been the spec I loved playing because of itâs style but I feel like enh lacks in most areas outside of turbo.
thats so bad⊠looks like a 1,8k peaker made the tierlist everything on it is wrong
FDK,WW up there with Warrior? Rogue on A? how can Rogue/Enhancer be higher then Survival Hunter and why is there a UHDK on the List?
Ww is s tier they have never ending burst kinda
Well thats true and its annoying to play against them but i still think Warrior stands above all then Warrior needs to be S+
i bought so many M+ Boosts and the Mythic BOE Ring cant wait to buy next week my Exploiter legendary with the Critbuild wanna hit those 21k Mortalstrikes
Well, Warriors are indeed S tier, but Monks are really on the same level but different. Both really fine choices.
I mean you are the one who is wrong, I am facing frost dks at 2800-2900 rating who are topping dps. There damage is insane and combine that with a ww and you have crazy dmg.
If a delusional low rated warrior main says so 
If you put frost dk on the same level as warrior, ww or ret then youâre just straight up delusional, same goes if you think that unholy is viable in any shape or form
So why is are there a lot of frost dk teams queuing between 2.8 and 3.1k? All so please donât try to rating bash me, considering I have much higher rating than any of your characters.
Because you donât know how arenas work.
Youâre 2.8 as warrior which is like 2k with any other class and based on your past achievements and the way you argue most likely also boosted
Says the guy who is hard stuck 2.4 this season. 2.8 is 2k as any other class, omegalul you are the most delusional moron I have met on the forums. I come and read these forums every couple days and all I ever see is you whining. Seems like you spend more time on the forums that actually in the game playing arena. Who pays for 7 gladiator boosts? What a pathetic attempt at attacking me for having a different opinion than you.
boosted 2k warriors opinion 
Get a life, you spend 10 years on these forums crying about an online game. Someone who is similar experience to you in PvP has a difference of opinion and the first thing you do is resort to ad hominem attacks. You are either a 16 year old kid or a old man with no life prospects to behave like such a child.
Youâre not even close to be similar xp btw.
Even if your 2.8 were legit (which they arenât) it would still be extremely awful as a warrior this season