Today i joined a random dungeon on a alt. It was freehold and i remembered how much i miss bfa. Dungeons were awesome, boralus music and also corruptions were so much fun. It was so much fun to see unexpected big TD procs on pulls or star damage in raid bosses. And there is nyalota raid. Everything was perfect. I play this game since cataclysm. And there is no other expension i enjoyed more than bfa. I dont understand hate towards to bfa. For shadowlands it is early to make an proper evalotion but so far it is so much behind bfa.
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For it is written, that whenever there is a Game Forum, an inordinate amount of posts will be devoted to loudly denouncing the game and its developers… there will also be cat pics… and a music thread.
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I enjoyed BfA five-mans much more than SL 5-mans. I also found BfA questing and storyline content infinitely more compelling than SL, even when comparing just the .0 content. Uldir was more interesting and quirky than Nathria, but that came at the price of several gimmick fights and Raid Leader Puzzles that I disliked.
However, the core gameplay loop, itemization and progression system foundation in BfA were severely lacking and SL has a way more solid framework for the endgame. It still has kinks to iron out, but it’s a solid foundation, compared to BfA which was tge proverbial castle built on a swamp.
Every expac has it’s ups and downs. Yes, even Legion, TBC or Warlords, none of those were all good or all bad. Games and game design are more nuanced than that, especially in a genre as massive and varied as this. Which is why every time you see another hyperbolic thread about how X expansion was trash and Y was perfect, you should treat that as what it is: white noise spouted out by narrow minded attention seekers incapable of critical thinking.
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Bfa was beautifull and had its masterpieces, but was very annoying expansion overall, as you had hardly ever choice what you do next with your game. Game was very often forcing you to do content you dont enjoy.
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BFA had a lot of good ideas.
However, most of those good ideas were brutally twisted and obliterated by the TOUCH OF BLIZZARD.
For example: Azerite system. In the end, it was fairly balanced, had a proper vendor and you could get what you wanted by grinding like a normal item should be.
Early on, it was a random nonsense with some ridiculously OP ones and some useless garbage. You had to grind neck level to even use those abilities and you had to sometimes skip using the upgrade you got, because the rings weren’t unlocked yet.
And even by the end of it, they STILL forced you to pay gold every time you wanted to change the traits, just to screw with you.
Blizzard touch is dangerous and destructive.
It sometimes turns greatest ideas into the biggest disappointments.
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ofc you would make that assumption, bcs u liked gearing in bfa , well most of us couldn’t play 24/7 gearing was so fast and meaningless , i got underwhelmed from being behind but in SL i can focus on what i want to do and no titanforging.
The only reason gearing is timegated bcs to allow ppl like me that don’t have a lot of time to catch up.
nyalotha was a joke bcs bfa was about that old warcraft humans vs orcs so what did n’zoth want there ?let alone we defeat him so easily , i mean the guy is like important lore character .besides SL isn’t bad i like how the story is going that far and what they revealed for 9.1, tbh in my opinion castle nathria seems more challenging and fun than nyalotha and denthrius is a much better villian.
plus no one likes magni and his azerite
Yesterday leveling my zandalari troll in BFA i can say this again
I miss it so much , sl is a cringy asian MMO
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Also do not understand the hate for bfa. The expansion obviously had a lot of work put into the content. The zones were hugely better than what we have this time around, the quests were better, the levelling was more free form so more repeatable. I don’t like raiding so won’t comment on the raids but the dungeons were far better than the current crop ( some of which look very low effort indeed ). Gearing system wasn’t perfect but was significantly better than the grindy rubbish we now have.
8…3 was a very mixed bag but was resource starved to work on SL, I have no idea what they used those resources on though. By 8.2.5 the expansion was actually really good but instead of building on that we get all these nonsensical systems and poor decisions that are now going to be compounded by likely huge delays in getting new content and fixes out.
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It is known.
That’s about it for me.
JK. However, though, Battle for Azeroth didn’t have much in it for me. I barely even played the expansion since it just didn’t click with me. I did odd few quests and dungeons and that’s it. I was beating around the bush with that expansion so much that after all I barely even played it. Bloated with systems left and right and confusing overall experience. Artwork and music (as always) were top-notch, but I didn’t enjoy the gameplay experience at all. Pretty big disappointment since I was loud in the hypetrain before release, tbh. It had much more potential, but it was either carefully concealed or never discovered. I know I missed it.
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I only played bfa story basically and wpvp in nazjatar. Oh and mechagon isle was fun for a while. Other than that I didn’t like it but each to their own.
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One of the worst system.
It replaced DS as the worst ending raid tier. I mean, n’zoth fight is so boring.
Nah, BFA is the only true bad expansion.
Try to search negative points aboot bfa, you’ll see.
BFA foundation were bad and adding more systems upon those foundations only harmed bfa more. Wanna play some alts in 8.2 and early 8.3? Then grind essences once again.
In all honesty, if the game remained the same it was in 8.1, I would be saying bfa was neither bad or good, just an average expansion that could not reach post legion expectations.
I don’t see why my thread “BFA was the worst expansion change my mind” is lacking of critical thinking and me being an attention seeker. I mean, I just made this post to show that the hate towards SL is not deserved since bfa was worse than SL on many aspects, the most critical being the framework. Sure, covenants suck, but the rip cord can be pulled. On the other hand of the spectrum, Azerite traits were bad and some specs could not pump or even function without them.
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BFA definitely had the best zones. I also found Ny’alotha way more fun than all the gimmicky one-shot mechanics in Nathria. Also the dungeons felt like journeys through some mystical place, in SL we have linear dungeons and two of them are literally just a giant courtyard. Also Oribos can’t even compare to what we had in BFA, especially Boralus. Basically the BFA zones, dungeons, and raids made me feel happy, while the SL areas make me feel like I need prozac.
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I never thought I’d actually say this, but I will admit that I enjoyed BFA much more than Shadowlands, despite of the writing being utter garbage.
I really enjoyed the Warfronts, especially Darkshore. BFA had some really solid zones that I enjoyed questing through, especially Drustvar! In Shadowlands I don’t feel the same (might be a burnout.) even though I liked Ardenweald, the rest of the zones were very dull in my opinion. I don’t really like Oribos as the new capital either, it didn’t give me the same immersion as Boralus did.
Shadowlands still isn’t over, and perhaps I’ll change my mind once the expansion is done. But for now, it feels dull.
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I’ll presume that you’ve suppressed all the bad memories and experiences from that horror of an expansion if that is indeed how you feel just a few months after its passing.
Let’s not normalize BfA just because we’re disappointed with Shadowlands.
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Every “current expansion” is the worst and the last expansion was better. Its a never-ending cycle. Just watch when we are in an expansion after SL. There will be praise threads about SL. 
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i can tell u atleast what i disliked about BFA… because it wasnt all bad, it just started REALLY badly.
- it launched a REALLY bad borrowed power system, and several classes completely broken and only half created.
- the bugs were awful, worse then SL by a Mile. u had people litterally locked out of progressing main story line for more then a day.
BFA Started sinking, when it became blindingly apparant that azerite systems had flopped. which ment each major patch was lumping a new borrowed power ontop of itself to try and save the orginal system. but what it was doing was Tying random grinds to each stage of the game which made the game increasingly alt unfriendly. and overall a Continous chore.
I’d geniunely be Really interested to see how the game would of turned out if the azerite system was never launched.
If in years to come Classic eventually progress to BFA. i wonder if they Just didnt do the pruning, upfront deleted azerite armour, Had essences account wind in from the launch day
Turned Warfronts and Island Expeditions to PvP Features.
Would BFA turn out more successful,
but this is the problem, throughout BFA A list of critics were made towards the game listing that something far closer to SL was what the “majority wanted”. now thatr they’ve undone ALOT of the BFA systems and reduced it down alot further. now alot of players are crying BFA is what the majority wanted.
this is the issue. WoW effectively has a Audience full of VERY different communities. Not many play WoW because they love ALL of WoW, yet the devs keep trying to push this direction of play.
Ions effectively building a cohesive game for PvP raiding and M+ to entwine with one another… while its Audience has no desire to go past the section of WoW they want to play.
they need to go backwards abit.
Raid M+ and PvP all need seperate End game progression cycles, but in a control manner hopefully 9.1 will get closer to this with the concepts of pvp gear having seperated pvp ilevels inside pvp and raid gear having Bonuses which work in Raid enviroments.
pretty much this. Everyone seems to compare the final patch of the prior expansion to the launch of a new expansion. if u comparee 8.0 to 9.0 however, u’d likely have a different opinon… considering how bad 8.0 was
BFA didnt start to calm down with its issues til 8.2 realistically.
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BFA Dungeons, even the annoying ones, were several levels better than SL and the zones also.
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Me neither, the first two patches were exceptional in the story, lore, theme, music, cosmetics and made me return after cata
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It was overloaded with RNG in every type of content, the story effectively destroyed the factions and the franchise (in my opinion), the removal of tier sets meant that every class would have the same armor as the other classes of the same amor type, island expeditions were boring and repetitive, Heart of Azeroth was just the worse, shallower version of the Legion artifacts with the annoying AP grind, azerite armor was extremely unbalanced and you had to re-grind the same traits on the higher item level until they added the vendors…
I could go on, but then I’d have to write an essay. BfA to me is one of the worst expansions this game has ever had.
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