Epic bg is 8 min average waiting time, random bg 10 min average waiting time at the middle of the day. Why?
At least we had mercenary but i come back to play late afternoon and the mercenary npc gone so i cant play horde anymore with 2 min epic bg que…
Can u do something with this blizzard? Alliance have way more que time means more alliance player playing the random battlegrounds but at least provide us permanent mercenary npc please.
premades have killed the game over the years, nowdays hardly anyone actually q bg for real, it was said that it was gonna happen, and it will become more adn more obvious until there will be no matches at all
As much as I dislike premades it’s not the premade groups that ruined pvp but Blizzard themselves. They had many options to solve the premade issues over the years but chose not to. Now they choose to turn pvp into pve with their new flightstones for upgrades instead of honor.
premades or not we still have playerbase, they could just copy what they did in classic wotlk in order to prevent long que times, why are they not doing it?
Hey,
you all did this to yourselves.
its either the premade community or long ques.
If you dont actively stand against premading, youre part of the problem too.
You cant have the wolf- fed and the sheep- whole.
Life be like this.
This is not directly adressed to you, its towards everyone who still havent realized what Premades do to Rbgs.
Wake up.
spitting facts
I disagree. It’s like the saying ‘Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.’
In this case Blizz is the gun. The playerbase can choose not to engage in premades, but they do. Ultimately it’s the community’s fault not Blizz’s.
said the guy from a premader guild.
dude system limits you to 5 people per premade which is totally fine, you play with bunch of friends.
However your guild and many other communities bypass the system via syncing shenanigans.
Which would be fine if it wasnt abuse of the system quite literally plus its totally destructive towards the casual pvp players.
And is the fault at the players?
Yes and No.
Theres already a set limit of 5 player premade, people do 20 man premades via bypassing the said system limit and Blizzard turns a blind eye to this practice.
To me its whatever most of the time i just fool around, im skilled enough to pick my fights, however youre cutting any fresh blood supply to the PvP scene so its your fault too. Not only Blizzards.
And why? for a bunch of silly numbers, i can tell you that i gathered all of the PvP achievements including Battlemaster, Khan and Bloodthirsty along with 800 honor level all by my frickng self and i tell you what - i had a blast, these achievement mean a lot more to me than they would if i premaded.
Just play fair bros, stop being pricks. Its difficult to admit ones errors and tbf you dont have to, just quit this.
PS your argument is completely invalid.
Wait, is this a response to me? Myth doesn’t queue sync. We make groups of up to 5 for BGs. Show me proof of us forming bigger groups and I’ll take it up with our guild leader.
Also, when we form groups (of 5 people) we usually invite the first in guild chat who say they want to join. As you can imagine, many times we had undergeared guildies in our groups which you call “premades”. Often we lose too. This does not stop us from enjoying playing together.
We sometimes lose to other teams that bring a 5ppl group and almost always lose to full bg premades (queue sync-ers)
I appreciate the publicity <3, but I must admit we for a guild as a whole are not as hardcore as you may assume we are. Join us and see for yourself, we do bgs every day and would love to include you 
…besides we have at least 3 battlemasters like you in the guild and we can share stories
in the grand scheme of things, if nobody could ever play with anyone else in group, it would ultimately create a better game than the game we have, and thats quite sad.
That logic is too simple and flawed…Look, people always take the shortest way to get success and if they feel they can win and get their rewards in a certain way - especially a way that seems to be a loophole in the whole pvp design THEY WILL DO IT. They know it’s not meant to be, yet they also see others are doing it and getting away with it, so they feel even more encouraged.
Now games normally have rules that counter any attempts to bend the rules or cheat, and wow has too but Blizzard’s design have flaws.
Where there are flaws there will ALWAYS be some people abusing it, that’s a hard fact . It’s also a hard fact that premades are abusing the syncing in pvp. If there weren’t any flaws they couldn’t abuse it, as simple as that.
We wouldn’t even have had this discussion if Blizzard had fixed this design flaw!
And btw…stop hijacking threads to AGAIN tell how righteous and awesome all your premade teams are. You’ve already took over my thread when I asked Blizzard why they still haven’t fixed the whole premade situation in random bgs.
Just because you can get away with it doesn’t make it right!
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