Only have Ally chars so i gott ask, how long is queue times for Horde now?
Consistently getting 8-15 min queues after comimg back in 10.7 and supposedly Alliance still has the enlistment bonus.
I can’t fully recall but it feels like queues popped faster in shadowlands lol
Usually within 5 minutes, you can test it yourself if you talk to the merc guy in the room where the pvp vendors are.
Last night I was getting 0-1 minute queues on horde, and ~10 minute queues on Alliance as merc. Strangely, the merc guy was still up for horde players!
Did some large scale shift occur to the alliance?
No idea, queues were pretty much instsnt when dragonflight dropped and now the queues are grim as all hell
The merc npc is only available to Horde aswell, which makes it even weirder
I can hazard a guess as to why queue times are getting longer but all the usual suspects defending their dirty ways will just appear here to argue my viewpoint.
This game is dying. You cant do random BGs in low levels now… I have Vulpera for leveling up and I do it only via BGs. I wait 3 hours at level 44… to join a BG during weekends.
We haven’t gotten a new BG since… MoP or so? I am not counting the redesign of Deepwind Gorge as a new BG.
Always playing the same BGs tends to get boring.
edit Oh, yeah, we got Seething Shore (buggy mess) in Legion. I mean, they don’t have to reinvent the wheel. They can just give us new “WSG” and “AB” maps.
Most popular CS maps are decades old. League has 2 maps and the main game is played on just one.
Its definitely not about maps. Ppl quit when the game doesnt play well.
7 mins at the moment on alliance, but timer normally goes past this to 9 mins and this is the weekend, guess its mostly due to people quitting due to class balance, and being steamrolled by premades, and finished the content they wanted.
Specifically mm hunters in my view are ruining most random bgs.
Friends list for bgs has gone from 12 to 1 person, Im only playing now because of guild peeps in discord.
At almost retirement age, I just want to come home and chill infront of some good old bgs as they used to be, Now its the one shotting, zerg ultra fast era pummled by melee, and out of range one shotters or may as well be one shotted as dead within 3 secs with 29% versatility buffed.
Yeah, it’s also because we’re facing the same few zugzug specs in high numbers in every BG.
BGs without hunters, rets, arms warriors, disc priests, vengeance dhs and subtlety rogues are a blast still.
Yea either the merc is broken or there is no one playing . Yesterday tried to do some bgs -10-20-40??? minute queues at prime time on weekend . The braw is especially horrendous I had 1 hour and a half queue on that one , only to get stomped by a premade with people of honor lvl 600.
I do not remember this bad queue times ever . Even on classic at 3 am I had at most 7-10 . Even when human racial was the go to and everyone and their momma played alliance I still had like 7 minute queues .
Hour and half queue is just lol .
I also noticed random heroic queue times are trough the roof too . There was even a bonus for “dps required” lol . Of course I queued and sat for 50 minutes before giving up and logging off .
Fels like either the queues are broken or no one is playing at all .
Also as for the hunters / rets /wars . That’s the result of "3v3 is the balance bracket " .
DPS /HEALING ratio is broken beyond belief , but don’t let the Arena guys hear that . X class needs buffs because somewhere out there in a 10 by 10 box they get cornered and they do not live as long . Too bad I forgot my 10 by 10 box when I am doing anything else except arena .
3 MM hunters crapping on you from the other side of the map . Without immunity or stealth you cannot even approach them as . Hence why the ret and warrior and hunter fiesta . Ret pops bubble + steed . Warriors run around with shield-wall 24/7 . Hunter > self explanatory .
Stealth used to be okay , but now hunters got that spray skill which covers a quarter of the map at 40+ yards tagging everything .
Self Heal , burst damage , cast time so broken it is crazy . But hey Arena tournament right ? That’s so fun that no one watches it .
Yes in SL. Priest and druid healers were meta most of that xpac and shadowmeld is still absolutely broken OP, so if you couldn’t meld>drink you were just throwing.
EMFH is still absolutely nuts for every single DPS that can get it
Then to add fuel to the fire, assa and feral were doing crazy damage with dots, making Fireblood join the other 2 racials in being S tier in arena.
All of the above caused most top players to swap to Alliance.
The final nail in the coffin was allowing cross-faction arenas, meaning you really had no excuse not to be a night elf, human or dark iron. The exception for the most part was just shaman, which still prefered to be orc for the stun reduction, but considering the fact they just nerfed that racial by 50%, except every remaining horde shaman to be a dark iron within days.
On top of all of the above, most of the horde racials are laughably terrible or outright ruin your spec for you. Touch of the Grave still breaks stealth for rogues, meaning being an undead rogue is throwing.
War stomp is still good, but is it better than EMFH? Is it better than meld>restealth or meld>drink?
Trolls dont have a racial, neither do z troll, nightborne or vulpera. HMT racial is a joke that will probably end up killing you more than anyone else.
Blood elf did have a great racial in an aoe silence which made them a great option for paladins, dks and especially warriors, but they turbo nerfed that racial and now it is utterly worthless unless you’re 1v1ing a paladin or something and can reliably dispel BoP with it.
All of the above means that every single top player is Alliance, which means all of their viewers copy them, which then means everyone sees all of those guys alliance, convincing them to go alliance as well, on and on, chain reaction, until we’re at the total alliance dominance we are and have currently been in for around 2.5 years now.
Even US servers are starting to do it - and NA is notorious for being slow to adopt metas.
Solution is pretty simple: disable all racials in pvp. A large part of why assa rogue got nerfed was thanks to shadowmeld allowing free restealths. A large part of why mana got nerfed so hard was the same reason. They regularly balance for burst thanks to human rets and human warriors doing absurd burst with their 1,000 extra stats trinket, etc. Just disable them. I don’t want to play a human warrior. I don’t want to play a nelf rogue. I want to play horde, but the game makes it really uncomfortable to do so, when not only do I not get shadowmeld on my rogue, I also get knocked out of stealth every time my racial procs as undead.
But this is a suggestion that has been requested daily for the past 15 years, so i don’t have much hope for it.
This is utter nonsense, or your queue is bugged. I’ve leveled multiple characters through nothing but PvP and never encountered this queue time, unless you’re playing at 1am in the morning.
he may well be exaggerating to an extent but the low level queues are brutal now compared to any other expac I’ve played and when they do pop they usually aren’t fully populated on entry only filling before near the end (if you are lucky). If you aren’t lucky the game gets abandoned after 5 mins. There is defo a noticeable drop off in player numbers levelling through bgs.
Agreed, they are really slow even peak hours. 1 hour and beyond was pretty typical for the mid levels. ~10 minute queues only seem to exist in 10-19, 60 and 61-69.
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