You talk a lot of crap for someone playing a spec that does nothing but spam rotate poly and gpyro into combust.
Destro warlock? Assassin Rogue? Both are just as easy to play but a lot more effective in every part of the Game in PvP compared to DH, which in competetive just shines in 2s even in this Corruptionfiesta.
And they have absolutely nothing left anymore in Shadowlands while everyone else gets a lot of stuff, especially defensive for most melees, back baseline.
If you dont see the problem there, I think you should get a pair of glasses.
Blur one of the strongest defensive cds is still on a 1 minute cd.
DH basically only loses their rotational passive dodge which has no place ingame and a bit of leech.
Theyâre not less squishy against comps they used to struggle before
If you didnât play any beta at all DH is still doing a shĂŽt ton of damage especially with sinful brand and btw they have now mortal strike.
Youâre free to believe thatâs all there is to playing mage if youâd like
Disagree
Blur is still going to be really strong, metamorphosis is still just as strong, darkness is still absolutely insane, reverse magic is still super strong, still have 2 stuns, really high mobility, getting a healing debuff, etc.
DH was already not that decent in 3s, and now afterwards it will just be a slaughter. If they didnt add Mortal Rush they would more than likely be the Enhances of Shadowlands. Dont care about current Beta experiences against people that rarily to never PvP. They just straight up nerfed and pruned a barebones class and in 2 years from now people complain that class X got pruned too hard.
Good amazing change, DH was well over-due nerfs with how OTT their kit was. Definitely one of the best changes to a class so far as theyâve been long over due to be brought down onto other meleeâs level of play.
Might not change much for people who play healers however still going to be a nuisance being forced to eat every mana burn with relentless being removed from the game.
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I think alot of people would have been okay with that to be honest. It probably has the lowest skill floor and ceiling of any class. Its very easy for a low skilled player to get high value out of that class.
What logic? how does what I said have anything to do with what should be played?
All I said was alot of people wouldnât have cared if DH was as dead as Enhance in BFA. Then I gave you the reason why they wouldnât care, because its legitimately mong proof.
Enhance, Assa, Destro, MM, Arms, BM, Frost DK, Fire, Moonkin, all are just as braindead as Havoc.
You said its a low skill floor class. All the specs above are pretty much in the same boat. Why exactly would Havoc get demolished then out of WoW and all the others shouldnt, hmm?
Destro with the most health and tankiness as a caster in game just turreting in the middle? Thats more skill for you than a melee that atleast has to watch out for positioning and time his CC correctly atleast?
So many tears for nothing, DH should have got changed that they are better for 3s and less powerful in 2s and duels and wpvp. Except that they just gut it hard and make it even more barebones.
People crying so hard is why this Game is the ultimate crap it is nowadays. In Legion it was âDH has too much ranged damageâ with Bloodlet and Fel Barrage, in BfA it was âDH is too tanky in melee going toe-to-toeâ, whats it in SL? DH is existing?
I understand youâre upset your main BFA class just got taken down alot, stings I know, but I hear MM is looking cool in Shadowlands, maybe you can go back to hunter now and have more fun =)
I see you complaining because DH got nerfed, which they needed. But I also notice DH is the only class youâve really played in arena this season too, thatâs why I drew that conclusion.
DH is currently over loaded, has a ton of sustain dmg, routinely see them doing 35k substain DPS through an entire match, they have insane self heals, low CD def cds, high mobility and alot of utility with reverse magic, mana rift, AOE stun, incap which is basically a instant cyclone, purge, range stun and kick etc, list goes on. All of that baked into a class that has a very low skill cap is just bad for game balance.
Theres the problem. DH having those things isnt the real problem here.
The fact that other specs dont have this much IS the problem.
Everyone preaches for MoP to be the best of all PvP experiences, and if it isnt MoP, it is WotLK.
And especially MoP was COMPLETLY OVERLOADED with CC, utility and damage. Something DH for example has, if not for a lot of buttons to press to deal damage (cause all the other specs pressing 1-2 more buttons is so much more skillful, but whatever makes a player think hes good)
DH getting pruned even more from Legion to SL is a prime example of why WoW is the way it is nowadays. Instead of buffing other Classes to top tier levels, you guys demand nerfs, prunes, and cry day in and out.
Pick your own nose and realize WoW is crap cause all the people whine about a class having something strong.
DH didnât just have something strong though⌠it have multiple things that were strong on a class with virtually no skill cap.
It wouldnât really be a problem if a DH was made of glass and the player had to have very good awareness of when he needed to pre run goâs or pre use something etc and if he avoided the incoming attack by pre running can then defuse the go solo, but if he got caught he might just get 100 - 0⌠then a DH having all of those tools is fine since you had to be a good player to take advantage of them, while a bad player wouldnât pre run or pre Blur and would just die in a setup, this is just an example btw, not a suggestion.
But right now⌠a DH can basically tank goâs and yolo Blur because of his self healing which is fed by their high sustain, its very easy to take advantage of those powerful tools because you arenât that easy to kill.
still going to be a nuisance being forced to eat every mana burn with relentless being removed from the game.
