Blizz making game time changes

You are the one who started with:
Blizzard is making this change because of greedy and because they do ‘‘company’ things’’ to increase their revenue.

Dont start ‘‘blaming’’ me now for trying to explain basic economics to someone who doesnt understand how the economy even works.

People in this thread, against the change (you included) keep claiming they cant play the game anymore due to this change.

For very weird reasons overall, but it all boils down to this:
It will become a bit more expensive to pay with gold for tokens to swap to Bnet balance and buy gametime. 100% correct observation.

But, you can still pay for the game in your preferred way and since gold doesnt hold an actual value, you are still paying with a fictional currency for a real world product.

If you think, spending more gold for the same amount of gametime, isnt worth it thats up to you.

If thats the only way of playing the game because of token / bnet swaps, you can still play.
I would get so worked up as you or Rayzens, when they would remove the Token swap to Bnet balance thing entirely and removing my means of playing.
Since thats a real issue, this simply isnt one.

The fact you dont approve of the change because you dont see the value in it, is up to you.
If you want to pay for 5 months, but get 6 months of playtime, the subscription for 6 months is there for you.

And thats about it. Yet you refuse to understand that.

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But you dont need to explain anything, everyone knows this change was made for profit, because “thats how economy/businesses works”. All such changes are greed based to get more profit and you cant deny that, since its what you said yourself, that business are here to make most money possible and dont care about anything else. Im not entirely sure where you see people say it was made not for profit or other reason.

I never claimed i cant play the game anymore, dont make stuff up, some people yeah, but i can keep playing if i want, though it sucks to randomly have to pay more, yet you refuse to understand it.

This is factually wrong as soon as Wow Token was introduced for real life money. Same way bitcoin is fictional currency, but as soon as you can buy/sell it, it gains value.

Yes ofcourse i dont see value in the change, as it is 20% more expensive for me to play now. But i do wonder what value you see in it for yourself specifically, that you seem to have such interest in the topic. Maybe you are a shareholder?

Thanks for the info, totally didnt know that already. This is on a level of Ion telling players there is no PvP vendor, because players couldnt find it.

There you go again, confusing greed with profit and business strategies.
You are the one who dont understand the topic at hand and reasons for the change.

You only ‘‘randomly’’ pay more if you decide to stick with the option that is now MORE EXPENSIVE.
There are options to pay less or similar amounts as before this change got implemented so stop saying you are ‘‘forced’’ into paying more.

Because you arent.

You do keep saying its 20% more expensive now, and you are somehow ‘‘forced to do so’’ (see above)

But if you want to keep paying for WoW with gold and swapping gold to Bnet balance, it will be a bit more expensive.
If you dont see the value in it, or you think that spending more gold on your gametime isnt worth it, than you have to consider the subscription, quitting or suck it up and keep on playing.

thats the value i am talking about.

Stop telling us there is no way for you anymore to pay for 5 months and get 6 months.

Because there still is, just not through your preferred way of paying for gametime.

If you find a way to do that with game time, do inform me, otherwise stop trolling. I never said you cant get 6 months for 5 months price anymore using real life money, what i said is the option to do so using game time is removed.

Anyway, you can stop replying and telling me its my fault that i have to pay more for same amount using preferred method, just because you deem it “outdated”.

Damae all this debate can be summed up into 1 old saying:

The dogs bark but the caravan moves on. :smiley:

Well this thread would’ve died 10 hrs ago save for these two going in circles

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Its just funny to see how triggered all these people are and how they cant understand the basic principles behind the change.

Anyway, we had a good run and laugh out of it :smiley:

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As if its not more entertaining than daily wow is dead, shadowlands worst expansion threads. Some variety is always good.

Same here :slightly_smiling_face:

“streamlining business excercise” REALY…LOL. its for PROFIT pure and simple, they want mooooooore MONEY !

Reducing the number of ways a consumer can purchase your product is just bad in every way, giving consumers more ways to access your product is quit obviously better.

UNLESS of course you reduce the options to “push” consumers into having to use one certain payment option which can net you more profit.

That’s the only way it make sense from a business point of view

Are you making posts on every forum imaginable which discuss products of companies?
They are only in it for profit?

I never heard of a so called charity company. But if there is one out there, please let me know.

And a streamlining business excercise is increasing their profits, its just some fancy words describing that thing.
The rest of your post exactly describes why they would do this. So i dont know what more to tell you.

I only buy when I have the time to play. Instead of buying around 6x a year a month of game time I would then buy 2x a year 2 months of game time because I won’t buy 2 months when I probably won’t be playing that much. This change does not seem logical or beneficial to Blizzard.

There’s a balance of product quality and access over profit to make a product successful, Blizzard have been very successful with Warcraft because of the original developers philosophy in the games design, Since Activision took control that is diminishing every expansion, The main thing keeping the game going these days is riding on the back of the name but obvious profit over quality tactics like this are slowly but surely tarnishing that name

Everyone knows and understands why they would do this, more profit. What you dont understand, however, is that this change is not beneficial to customer that you keep trying to deny.

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Leave him be, he doen’t seem to know any better so you might as well let it rest.

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And not every decision made by a company who wants to increase profit margins is beneficial to the customer.

OR should be beneficial for the customer.

Thats part of running a business, and you will hurt customers.
Doesnt matter how big or small, but the decisions made by businesses will lose them customers but also at the same time win them customers.

Its not a matter of: It has to be beneficial for the customer or else we dont make a change in our business plan or strategy.

Not sure how you can think otherwise.

And this is a subjective matter.

For you, but also for the company.
If Blizzard still rates WoW and their subscription / gametime prices proper for the quality they deliver, they will keep charging it. If they feel they can increase their profit by charging less money for the gametime / subscription, and will net them more customers / more profit, they would do so.

If you do feel otherwise, feel free to tell them with your wallet it is not okay.

Anyway, moving out of this discussion now.
If you cant understand economics, i dont see why you would want to discuss them.

Changes like this arent made to attract new customers, but to use up more existing ones. Sustainable business that makes changes that have benefit and drawbacks for customer is a good business, where some people leave, some join. Unsustainable business that makes changes that are only drawbacks for customers in pursuit of profit is a bad business, where people only leave, but increasing profit from existing ones. (morally and for general audience). You should look into what a sustainable business model is, might learn some new things, because your views are quite a bit outdated.

Thats all i needed to know about you, have a good day :slight_smile: . Never have i seen someone who wants to get used up consciously.

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‘feel free to tell them with your wallet’ has been a thing going back quite a bit. Didn’t seem to tell Blizzard much when WoW went from 10M subs+ and dropped down to half that in one xpac, in fact they just released more lazy content and cash shop mounts for people like you to buy up lol. Which, yeah you did buy every single one.

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NO its not, WoW’s success was due to its ease accessibility, this change reduces that. that can’t be argued it will happen 100%.
This change affects the game, the game WILL lose players due to this change and for a massive multiplayer online game that’s just the wrong thing to do…unless of course you don’t care and preferer pure profit over the games popularity…which quite obviously they do

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Both.

Gamtime is not the same as subscription, and tokens are not the same as either.

I have a 30 day suscription, and I will keep having that as the option is not going away.