instead of incentivizing healers to wna heal. just forget about them and create a new solo 2v2 rated ques( possibly a shuffled version ) we dont need healers there, if u wna heal u get the standard 3v3 solo shuffle. 2v2 rated exists anyway why not shuffle that too as dps only. that would be interesting. each game has 3 rounds, either you get cr or lose cr no 0 cr bullsht. that would solve the current solo shuffle waiting problem in 2 ways:
-suck in the excessive dps into an arena game —> less waiting time for dps to find a game in general
-that would result in a better healer:dps ratio ----> less waiting time for dps to find a game in solo shuffle
i can guarantee insta ques across the board with this method.
also 2v2 requires a higher skill cap to master.
perhaps even unique dps titles etc. can be rewarded.
you know what this looks like? arena skirmish! a healer is always put in 3s, whereas dps can be in either. so just implement that idea but make them two separate ques. or just 1 que and 2 ratings (dps only 2s rating and the standard 3s solo shuffle)
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Hpals and Disc current state is main to blame
It is very simple… game have alot of mods to play PvP, its supposed to be driven by 7 healers, currently 2 healers are god-tier and viable while others are cannon meat
2 healers alone cannot drive it, and those who are not god tiers not want to be used as source of free wins to god tiers.
For those who gonna defend current situation in game remember one thing: When you wait 50mins you are waiting for healer to click que. House burns but all is allright…
Anyone know whats need to be done yesterday: Either nerf hpals and discs to be like others or buff others to be like them, there shoud be no mercy or hesitation because people unsubing.
the balancing argument is always true! however this is much complicated since the same class shares pvp, bg, raiding, m+ balancing. which is insanely hard to achieve and control. they tried everything to incentivize the healing base(regardless of balance) but that didnt help much. if they fix one thing at a time then they can single out the real balancing problems across each of the different end game “paths”
having said that, i believe its time to include a pvp talent tree instead of just 3 pvp talents to choose from, more like the structure of the new TWW talents but only for pvp. you can do the balancing in there.
You guys never fail to come up with the worst possible suggestions
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Suggestion to make all healers viable so let the better win is bad suggestion?
Rofl bro, you deserve 50+ mins que time, and you will get it as well since people already tryed to warn blizzard that this situation woud happen, forum is pretty much inactive as well and believe me this is bad sight this means people raised their hands from the matter.
But why shoud you care because you dont play PvP anyway… which also makes your comment weightless.
and you guys never fail to be part of the toxic community that is destroying the game from its roots
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Instantly dominated by a few classes/specs which are gifted with the necessary tools for such an environment and all others won’t ever bother queuing for it.
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what about dps-only rated 1v1s? it would effectively have the same outcome on solo shuffle que times
idk i have 20min qs on 2,4 mmr
This guy wants no healers in PvP.
This guy comes in and talks about healer balance (randomly)
This guy is apparently toxic for calling out typical fried forum suggestions.
Then it turns into a #1v1soloqueue as per usual
classic forum comedy
Unhide your profile so we can see how much you dipped in PvP to have weight of talk or remain light as feather…
I exactly know what im talking about, participation % numbers do not lie, people watch AWC with only 2 viable healers which was shameful for E-Sport game. Same things happen in evryday games.
I know truth is painful, but Hpals and Discs damaged blizzard that no bruto-saur sales coud fix that damage… this circus will cost a millions, unbalanced healers are 90% reason of 50mins que time. Nothing else !
You want more healers to play?
good make others equaly powerful as hpals and discs
let the better win
7 healers will drive game across all modes with reasonable que times
2 healers cannot drive it (we have this situation now)
The end… nothing else can fix the issue in PvP this is core of problem.
I wasnt even talking to you why do you feel addressed
OP and me was only one starting discusion and you said, you guys (plural).
Dunno what wrong was suggested there for that comment?
Whenever you guys tryng to defend there remember one thing, when you wait your que time… 20mins or 50mins you wait for healer to click que.
Its in your best intrest that game have 7 viable healers instead or 2, or pressing space in Dorongal makes you happy and fulfilled?
Noone, literally noone wants to queue up and be put into a full dps shuffle.
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No one wants to play addon overloaded op healer fiesta as far as it seems.
Healers will que if they are viable, they are kinda sick of playing 3 versus 4 games.
Game lost its driving force and this is healers, because game cannot afford to have 2 healers god tier class and other healers cannon meat.
Blizzard need to drop their meta politics, offcourse there will be always be some classes with are “better” and im ok with that, but make that difference managable, right now difference is not managable specialy when it comes to healer balance. You divided people into paesants and gods, litelary… in one hand you have healer which even someone mom can play, in other hand you have healers which are suposed to kill angel with world destroyer blade with butter knife.
Game must reach state that only skill can get you foward, not playing right class…than people will know if they improved as players, this is way of E-Sport. How is hard to understand cocept: Let the better win, blizzard? Than people will worship AWC players like PvP gods, right now people see upon them as meta abusers, which is very bad… But what you can expect when you have only 2 viable healers on AWC? Thats shameful and unacceptable.
It is very simple once all 7 healers are viable evrything will be instantly revived from que times to number of teams in LFG… NOTHING ELSE CAN SALVAGE SITUATION. there is no other way around.