i think monk needs a 90% nerf.
And about more than half of us aren’t talking about PvP, let alone arenas. This is why we have PvP modifiers.
I think half the dev team don’t even play shadow holy or discipline priests.
Im talking about the bad state priest and shadow is in its terrible. No damage on demand all our dps CDS are cast timers.
making Mind sear a spender is ducked up move by blizzard.
They need to hire better dev teams.
I mean yeah that’s kind of what i meant before that, i have not a single doubt this rework is a disaster.
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This rework is the nail in a coffin makes you feel like not even logging on wow anymore.
PW:shield a 7 sec CD.
Mind Sear a useless spender…
Dicipline unplayable shadow mend is removed.
Holy’s Is still not fixed away from flash heal and heal…
Mind Control a talent… Dispel Magic and Purify Disease a talent …
Shadow Word Death a talent 
I find this talent system is terrible
blizzard makin all ending talent nerfed capped at 5 targets makes you not even want to play the game. Meanwhile the Devs think they deserve credits? This is a joke patch.
wake up blizzard revert the things you’ve destroyed priest.
Holy is fine the way it is, ut actaully need a freaking nerf, its by far the best healer atm ahead of every other healing spec.
I think druid is by far better since they got silence and cyclone.
Blizzard have made everything so you can customize everything. I can’t even write my new sim I am loving it so much as holy priest. I have never felt so powerful in PvP. Even with all the broken dps classes.
I as a holy priest love the changes they made to holy PvP.
Holy is a healing class, we are ment to serve the other classes. Believers are expected to help the church with a joyful spirit. “Love one another.” “Care for one another.” “Pray for one another.” “Encourage one another.” “Help one another.” “Counsel one another.” “Support one another.”
We are not meter drama Queens, brain rotted away by void energy. Looking for overwhelming power in a massive volume of threads.
I think its kind of funny that you compare us to that. I just want to do damage.
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He does play healer 
“Forgive them, they do not know what they do”
IF The devs knew what they were doing then mind sear would not be a spender… Like 0 aoe. The Idol of Yogg-Saron’s prox when you dont need it… deals near nothing in damage.
They should revert the mind sear and make shadow crash a spender which dots 12 targets with Touch instead.
That is how you will fix shadow just revert Mind Devourer talent and make shadow crash in it instead of mind sear. It don’t make sense Mind Sear is a spender.
Like if they cared the devs that is then they would do that.
Also add back so you can mind blast during Mind Flay and Mind Sear again like you could in Shadowlands.
IF mind sear came back like it was then people wouldn’t mind the new talent three its just sad the devs just are clueless.
There are about 30 ways to fix shadow, but unless they want to tell us the direction they’re going for I can’t really comment on a ‘best fix’.
I don’t think old Sear is coming back because they seem pretty dead set on keeping our resource gain under control, although, shadow podcast had a pretty valid Affliction reference where resource gains scale with diminishing returns on multiple targets, and that could be a way to reimplement Sear as a builder. Basically you would get more insanity per target but not x15 for 15 targets.
I think I’d take a better psychic link over more VT targets in crash, personally. Get those 8 targets but hurt them well.
They COULD choose to give sw:pain a weaker version of Link to make that mass aoe but they don’t seem interested.
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i think they should go back to mind sear to be honest. and put it back to its former glory.
adds dies to fast in my group my monk friend kills the adds doing 250k meanwhile am at 18k - 13k and 9k on single target. Dotting is pretty much dead at the moment.
how is blizzard gonna explain shadow going from 4th spot down to bottom F tier xD in 1 patch…
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Lol blizzard failed in 1 patch it took them to destroy shadow am rofling at the devs…
|Position|Spec and Class|Population Size|Change from Previous
Nathria Week|
|1|Affliction Warlock|2444|↑7|
|2|Windwalker Monk|1768|↑9|
|3|Enhancement Shaman|1908|↑15|
|4|Frost Death Knight|906|↑5|
|5|Arms Warrior|2069|↑11|
|6|Retribution Paladin|1871|↑7|
|7|Beast Mastery Hunter|6234|↑7|
|8|Arcane Mage|393|↑9|
|9|Fire Mage|3236|↓4|
|10|Balance Druid|3403|↑5|
|11|Unholy Death Knight|1834|↓9|
|12|Destruction Warlock|1983|↓9|
|13|Havoc Demon Hunter|3296|↑9|
|14|Outlaw Rogue|2847|↓4|
|15|Feral Druid|793|↑9|
|16|Fury Warrior|2162|↓10|
|17|Assassination Rogue|381|↑6|
|18|Frost Mage|1252|↑2|
|19|Demonology Warlock|1208|↓18|
|20|Elemental Shaman|1065|↓13|
|21|Survival Hunter|304|↓9|
|22|Shadow Priest|1753|↓18| ← dead specc
|23|Marksmanship Hunter|964|↓4|
|24|Subtlety Rogue|201|↓3|’
This is to sad to even parody anymore.
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sad part about it they kept promising us buffs and we will do damage but they did a u turn at that promise XD¨
https://tenor.com/view/svenkersen-blizzard-money-gif-15486413
This is what we smell the devs did such a bad job.
Rest in peace priest as in general. The devs are incompetent
Blizzard really need to addresss this. Shadow priest aoe feels awful now…
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Their single target feels even more awful the game dev team has done a terrible job.
They need to revert mind sear back to how it used to be just make shadow crash cost insanity and applies dots on 10 targets instead of 8.
Like devouring for 1 target and shadow crash for more than 3 targets. Should work like that instead.
make shadow crash cost 50 insanity as well.
Reason why mind sear as a spender is terrible is that channel spells as spender does not work at all.
that’s why monk is high is because spinning crane kick is unlimited channeling.
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4 years later still promising us to fix shadow but none fixes. Just devs random adding stuff together to try and fix something randomly. Do the devs even play their game like the add die when I target it with mind sear, then my whole insanity is gone It feels like this is the worst rendition of shadow that has ever been seen. And here we though classic shadow priest 2004 style was the worst one.
The left side talent three gives us no damage more than a nerfed Mindgames and 75% reduced damage on shadow word death taken with a cast time halo that gives no insanity.
and our cds are the only one in game that is cast time everything. With a nerfed bubble 7 sec cd.
GG devs.
I think they gave up on this class finally.
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My major issue with shadow is.
Since void forms inital release (which was great). Its just slowly fallen further and further down.
We reached BFA launch where staying in void form became a dps loss, although azerite traits patched this up it still wasnt amazing as they had by this point gutted.
They didnt try do void form differently. Not anything, even though at one point we had a playstyle that coild have absorbed this. Old demo meta.
They never evolved on the design. Instead theyve just been pushing old shadow abilities in but clinging to void form still existing.
Shadow has reached a point now. Where its just all over the place. It dont feel great they make one win and in the next patch do something that is horrific again.
This rework once again just doesbt work.
Wanna restablish what shadow was pre legions rework? Fine go for it. Go find shadows design back in cataclysm. Throw it back in.
And then evolve that uptoo current standards.
Dont just plaster old shadow ontop of new shadow and hope for the best, a cheap rework at best whicj has once again be critised into the floor regarding its fundamental design.
Jump down the raven theme they were touching on back then and evolve the specc in that direction.
Theres so many ways they could have gone with reverting shadow back, but they simply didnt do it.
And once again it feels like a botched rework and just thrown down in a low state.
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