Blizzard Address Shadow Priest In the near future

I rather find this video very funny than sad. Didnt even know that icy veins has a bible post about SP rotation. Still dont see a problem with this.

Ah yes, i also started playing with Psychic Link but it turned out to be a lot worse than Dark Evangelism. I like the idea of this talent because in AOE scenarios, we have to press quite a lot ST skills, but other talents are more impactful.

After playing some tyrannical keys this week which is always NOT so fun as fortified affix, i can say that SP still pumps quite good. Im not quite sure, but i think SP ST sims are very low compared to others, but with the season affix it feels good.

The ST gameplay feels like utter garbage in raids because of how much is going on. Having to play mind spike surge, mind devourer, and mind flay insanity all at once is a mess.

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I personally like it, aside mind spike.

The way it currently works is not good.

It should not be a spammable, it should be a proc only ability that does a lot of damage when it procs, and procs apparitions.

Funny you say this, because that’s exactly what dissonant echoes was prior to dragonflight.

Basically yes, but dissonant echoes was a nice ability in my opinion.

shadow priest went from kind of ok searing night mare ok aoe nice four set towards something called abomination In matter of pre patch. But we shall see what blizzard will do in season 1 to fix this garbage play style of not having damage on demand and to much single target ability’s with garbage Pi another player.

shadow Feels more clunkier now and that’s not me trying to be rude it’s just the dev teams stressing stuff what they need to do is fix the problems instead of making clunky fiestas :stuck_out_tongue:

If you though evoker demands typing Advance to play. Then shadow should have the word Clunky as typing before playing it.

I think we have to much bottoms and cooldowns already.

You were already looking at Anboni, check out his Evoker video and tell me how advanced that seems :rofl:

## Single-Target Rotation for Shadow Priest

The single-target rotation relies on the following priority system of abilities, depending on which phase you are in.

1. Keep ![Vampiric Touch Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_stoicism.jpg) [Vampiric Touch](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/34914) and ![Shadow Word: Pain Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowwordpain.jpg) [Shadow Word: Pain](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/589) active.
2. Cast ![Mindbender Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_soulleech_3.jpg) [Mindbender](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/200174) on cooldown.
3. Cast ![Dark Ascension Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_darkarchangel.jpg) [Dark Ascension](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391109)
4. Cast ![Power Infusion Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_powerinfusion.jpg) [Power Infusion](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/10060) with ![Void Eruption Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_void_blast.jpg) [Void Eruption](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/228260) or ![Dark Ascension Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_darkarchangel.jpg) [Dark Ascension](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391109) active.
5. Sync any trinkets you have with your cooldowns.
6. Cast ![Mind Blast Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_unholyfrenzy.jpg) [Mind Blast](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/8092) if you are at full charges or will cap charges within the next GCD.
7. Cast ![Shadow Word: Death Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_demonicfortitude.jpg) [Shadow Word: Death](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/32379) with ![Mindbender Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_soulleech_3.jpg) [Mindbender](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/200174) active with ![Inescapable Torment Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_chilltouch.jpg) [Inescapable Torment](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/373427).
8. Cast ![Mind Blast Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_unholyfrenzy.jpg) [Mind Blast](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/8092) if ![Mindbender Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_soulleech_3.jpg) [Mindbender](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/200174) is active and you are capped on charges or will cap charges within the next GCD. Cast at high priority if Mindbender will expire otherwise.
9. Cast ![Devouring Plague Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_devouringplague.jpg) [Devouring Plague](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/335467) to maintain maximum uptime while making sure to not cap on Insanity.
10. Cast ![Vampiric Touch Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_stoicism.jpg) [Vampiric Touch](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/34914) to refresh Vampiric Touch or ![Shadow Word: Pain Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowwordpain.jpg) [Shadow Word: Pain](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/589) during the pandemic window and ![Shadow Crash Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowfury.jpg) [Shadow Crash](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/205385) will not be off cooldown in time.
11. Cast ![Shadow Word: Death Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_demonicfortitude.jpg) [Shadow Word: Death](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/32379) if the target is below 20% HP.
12. Cast ![Mind Blast Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_unholyfrenzy.jpg) [Mind Blast](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/8092).
13. Cast ![Mindgames Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_revendreth_priest.jpg) [Mindgames](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/375901) if all three DoTs are active. Can delay for a few seconds to line up with ![Dark Ascension Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_darkarchangel.jpg) [Dark Ascension](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391109).
14. Cast ![Shadow Crash Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowfury.jpg) [Shadow Crash](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/205385).
15. Cast ![Mind Spike Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_mindspike.jpg) [Mind Spike](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/73510) with ![Surge of Darkness Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_surgeofdarkness.jpg) [Surge of Darkness](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/162448) procs while moving.
16. Cast ![Mind Flay: Insanity Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_fire_twilightflamebreath.jpg) [Mind Flay: Insanity](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391399) with ![Screams of the Void Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_siphonmana.jpg) [Screams of the Void](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/375767). This can be full channeled.
17. Cast ![Halo Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_halo_shadow.jpg) [Halo](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/120644) if all 3 dots are active. This is roughly DPS neutral so it can also be skipped or saved for when the raid needs healing.
18. Cast ![Mind Spike Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_mindspike.jpg) [Mind Spike](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/73510) with ![Surge of Darkness Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_surgeofdarkness.jpg) [Surge of Darkness](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/162448) procs.
19. Cast ![Mind Flay: Insanity Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_fire_twilightflamebreath.jpg) [Mind Flay: Insanity](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391399) when available. This can be full channeled.
20. Cast ![Mind Spike Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_mindspike.jpg) [Mind Spike](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/73510) as your main filler.
21. Use the following spells in order should you need to move and do not have procs to consume: ![Shadow Crash Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowfury.jpg) [Shadow Crash](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/205385), ![Shadow Word: Death Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_demonicfortitude.jpg) [Shadow Word: Death](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/32379), ![Divine Star Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_divinestar_shadow2.jpg) [Divine Star](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/122121), ![Shadow Word: Pain Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowwordpain.jpg) [Shadow Word: Pain](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/589)

For detailed usage of the filler spells see the section at the bottom of this page.

Note: the pandemic window for our DoTs is 30% of the total duration. This means to get optimal value out of refreshing DoTs you want to wait until they are at or below the following thresholds:

* ![Vampiric Touch Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_stoicism.jpg) [Vampiric Touch](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/34914) - 6.3 seconds;
* ![Shadow Word: Pain Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowwordpain.jpg) [Shadow Word: Pain](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/589) (w/![Misery Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_rogue_envelopingshadows.jpg) [Misery](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/238558)) - 6.3 seconds;
* ![Devouring Plague Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_devouringplague.jpg) [Devouring Plague](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/335467) does not pandemic its duration, but it will add the old DoT damage to the new DoT damage;

![Devouring Plague Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_devouringplague.jpg) [Devouring Plague](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/335467) does not follow the same refresh rules as these two DoTs, instead it rolls its damage over and adds duration based on ticks remaining. The way you typically want to play around this is to maximize uptime of the DoT as much as possible, without capping on Insanity. You want to do this for optimal uptime on our Mastery bonus.

This is the weird singel target rotation after pre patch 10.0 hit that seams bit junked/ bad screwed up by blizzard.

### Target Priority

1. Keep ![Vampiric Touch Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_stoicism.jpg) [Vampiric Touch](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/34914) and ![Shadow Word: Pain Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowwordpain.jpg) [Shadow Word: Pain](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/589) active on all targets. Stop manually applying DoTs when inside of ![Voidform Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_voidform.jpg) [Voidform](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/228264) at 6+ targets.
2. Cast ![Mindbender Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_soulleech_3.jpg) [Mindbender](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/200174) on cooldown.
3. Cast ![Dark Ascension Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_darkarchangel.jpg) [Dark Ascension](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391109)
4. Cast ![Power Infusion Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_powerinfusion.jpg) [Power Infusion](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/10060) with ![Void Eruption Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_void_blast.jpg) [Void Eruption](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/228260) or ![Dark Ascension Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_darkarchangel.jpg) [Dark Ascension](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391109) active.
5. Sync any trinkets you have with your cooldowns.
6. Cast ![Mind Blast Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_unholyfrenzy.jpg) [Mind Blast](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/8092) if you are at full charges or will cap charges within the next GCD.
7. Cast ![Shadow Word: Death Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_demonicfortitude.jpg) [Shadow Word: Death](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/32379) with ![Mindbender Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_soulleech_3.jpg) [Mindbender](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/200174) active with ![Inescapable Torment Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_chilltouch.jpg) [Inescapable Torment](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/373427).
8. Cast ![Mind Blast Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_unholyfrenzy.jpg) [Mind Blast](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/8092) if ![Mindbender Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_soulleech_3.jpg) [Mindbender](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/200174) is active and you are capped on charges or will cap charges within the next GCD. Cast at high priority if Mindbender will expire otherwise.
9. Cast ![Vampiric Touch Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_stoicism.jpg) [Vampiric Touch](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/34914) to refresh Vampiric Touch or ![Shadow Word: Pain Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowwordpain.jpg) [Shadow Word: Pain](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/589) during the pandemic window and ![Shadow Crash Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowfury.jpg) [Shadow Crash](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/205385) will not be off cooldown in time. Stop manually applying DoTs when inside of ![Voidform Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_voidform.jpg) [Voidform](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/228264) at 6+ targets.
10. Cast ![Shadow Word: Death Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_demonicfortitude.jpg) [Shadow Word: Death](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/32379) if the target is below 20% HP. Drop this at 4+ targets.
11. Cast ![Mind Blast Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_unholyfrenzy.jpg) [Mind Blast](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/8092). Make sure your ![Vampiric Touch Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_holy_stoicism.jpg) [Vampiric Touch](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/34914) is spread first.
12. Cast ![Mindgames Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_revendreth_priest.jpg) [Mindgames](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/375901) if all three DoTs are all active. Can save for a few seconds to line up with ![Dark Ascension Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_darkarchangel.jpg) [Dark Ascension](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391109). Drop this at 5+ targets.
13. Cast ![Shadow Crash Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowfury.jpg) [Shadow Crash](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/205385) unless adds are coming up within ~10 seconds.
14. Dump remaining charges of ![Mind Blast Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_unholyfrenzy.jpg) [Mind Blast](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/8092).
15. Cast ![Mind Spike Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_mindspike.jpg) [Mind Spike](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/73510) with ![Surge of Darkness Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_surgeofdarkness.jpg) [Surge of Darkness](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/162448) procs while moving.
16. Cast ![Mind Flay: Insanity Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_fire_twilightflamebreath.jpg) [Mind Flay: Insanity](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391399) with ![Screams of the Void Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_siphonmana.jpg) [Screams of the Void](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/375767). This can be full channeled.
17. Cast ![Halo Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_halo_shadow.jpg) [Halo](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/120644) unless adds are coming within ~20 seconds.
18. Cast ![Mind Spike Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_mindspike.jpg) [Mind Spike](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/73510) with ![Surge of Darkness Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/ability_priest_surgeofdarkness.jpg) [Surge of Darkness](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/162448) procs.
19. Cast ![Mind Flay: Insanity Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_fire_twilightflamebreath.jpg) [Mind Flay: Insanity](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/391399) when available. This can be full channeled.
20. Cast ![Mind Spike Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_mindspike.jpg) [Mind Spike](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/73510) as your main filler.
21. Use the following spells in order should you need to move and do not have procs to consume: ![Shadow Crash Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowfury.jpg) [Shadow Crash](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/205385), ![Shadow Word: Death Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_demonicfortitude.jpg) [Shadow Word: Death](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/32379), ![Divine Star Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_priest_divinestar_shadow2.jpg) [Divine Star](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/122121), ![Shadow Word: Pain Icon](https://static.icy-veins.com/images/wow/large_icons/spell_shadow_shadowwordpain.jpg) [Shadow Word: Pain](https://beta.wowdb.com/spells/589)

Is our aoe that seams like straight out from a dumspter.

Not even monk has this many bottoms to push in a single target and manage to deal less dps.

shadow priest rotations carry’s over to be even clunckier fiesta XD

blizzard hate shadow and mind sear thats why they are nerfing us so hard core instead of monks uncapped aoe spamming.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-class-tuning-on-weekly-reset-aoe-target-soft-caps-added-hunter-buffs-329997#:~:text=Mind%20Sear%20now%20deals%20reduced%20damage%20beyond%205%20targets.

Glhf blizzard. Might as well removed any aoe we have when we aren’t allowed to even play with them.

So nerfs again thanks blizzard this ex pack is just a fiesta :stuck_out_tongue:

part of me thinks no one at blizzard dev team plays shadow just monks and mages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3E9LpV5bpE&ab_channel=WowMoments

thats why they dont remove the crap Pi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvx7bruoh2E&ab_channel=WowMoments

Still dont understand why blizzard dont remove Pi. and make our dps CDs instant casts

class balance btw.

meanwhile affliction warlock popping off shadow is in trash bin forgotten for next expack again but now in a less developed state more pre alpha’s state

Devs should be ashamed xD

Problem is sp has been looked at from a strict pve view which made them lack in pvp, especially in single target.

What?

This new shadow feels like it’s been designed explicitly for PvP.

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this is the biggest joke design blizzard ever made

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Not gonna lie its to fun to even care now when they have destroyed the core of the class the devs only care for dead stuff like PI and giving it to a ego trip mage/monk. Like can they address this class already.

whenever or not shadow sucks in DF this will probably be the best build for easy mode cleave.

or

Mind flay insanity depending on mind bender being good or mind flay insanity being good but I think mind bender is the better choice.

Or the third option picking both

which will increase single targets

Position Spec and Class Population Size Change from Previous Week
1 Balance Druid 3940 0
2 Affliction Warlock 2497 0
3 Beast Mastery Hunter 5244 ↑2
4 Unholy Death Knight 1753 ↑3
5 Outlaw Rogue 2706 ↓2
6 Arcane Mage 415 ↑5
7 Demonology Warlock 813 ↑11
8 Frost Death Knight 846 ↓4
9 Retribution Paladin 1240 ↑4
10 Windwalker Monk 1491 0
11 Havoc Demon Hunter 3186 ↓3
12 Fury Warrior 1829 0
13 Assassination Rogue 219 ↑6
14 Fire Mage 3155 ↓5
15 Arms Warrior 1781 ↓9
16 Destruction Warlock 1562 ↓2
17 Frost Mage 694 ↑5
18 Elemental Shaman 1059 ↓2
19 Enhancement Shaman 1533 ↑4
20 Subtlety Rogue 64 ↓3
21 Survival Hunter 103 ↓1
22 Feral Druid 549 ↓7
23 Shadow Priest 1710 ↓2
24 Marksmanship Hunter 205 0
25 Devastation Evoker 1234 N/A

This might be pre patch

but still funny :stuck_out_tongue: gl hf dev team of shadow.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/shadow-priest-is-bad/1182595/21#:~:text=It’s%20the%20worst,is%20beyond%20stupid.

This man takes what we feel about this shadow priest version out from our heart.

It’s the worst feeling DPS spec I’ve played. The rotation is so clunky it gives me PTSD. You are cancelling channels left and right, your spenders feel like nothing. It has legit no stuns or slows or any kind of useful utility other than PI. It’s very slow compared to most other dps specs.

If they changed mind sear and mind flay into casts instead of channels, the spec would feel way better, you could just spend your insanity and DoT enemies in between casts instead of cancelling the channel. They also need more of an AoE rotation. Also right now having to spend Insanity on your ONLY AoE ability is ridiculous. The expect you to ramp up your insanity on single target and then dump it into your AoE channel. This is beyond stupid.

for anyone not wanting to read the US forum.

Think It’s more or less blizzard not having time to bring out their classes fully fleshed out and exciting. The Graphics is beautiful but the gameplay is very bad.

They should sit down for the 10.1 and think hard about what they can do to fix it for the next ex pack launching after Dragon Flight now It’s sadly too late.

Hope they could make It better than this unfinished business.

Good Luck Blizzard Entertainment.

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Love how the pool size just decreased since august

18 Shadow Priest 4643 ← In august
23 Shadow Priest 1710 ← Today

Wonder how blizzard will fix this mess. Feels like the dev team is sleeping.

They should add back living shadow in tó the game it was fun and did some damage.