They need to fix shadows aoe right now lol xD
to quote my self I didnt mean for blizzard to make mind sear in to a spender 
I find it funny if blizzard read this and made this sloppy joe fix like that
I hope you revert Mind sear and make Idol Of Yog a spender instead.
at lest that would make the aoe less awkward.
And freeing up us to do damage without being locked up like Yog would be a solution as a spender Shadow Crash Donât fulfill a role more than being aggravating waiting for it to spawn again after 30 sec and or missing the target when the tank/target moves in m+ and pvp.
Shadow Crash issue could be addressed easily :
- from 8m to 15m
- 2 charges or 20 sec cd or any way to reduce cd (like by spending insanity)
- projectile speed x3-4
Also iâm waiting to see if they somehow buff Idol of NâZoth, either x2-3 to damage, or at least make it 50% direct aoe dmg on apply and the remaining dmg as its working now
I would love to have stress form back. 
Had a blast with Shadow at the latter end of BFA.
I think It didnât work for the majority and an MMORPG without an majority aint fun.
I think shadow crash should be a target spell instead of aim and click because you miss it half the time in m+ when tank rush to pick up 20 adds
The problem is shadows aoe feels sluggish compared to a monks spinnin crane kick and fist they got their in demand without a ramp up This is what blizzard need to address with shadow priest for the next expack.
I think they should revert Mind sear back and make Shadow crash in to a target lock spell which cost 30 insanity that cleaves all the targets and dots all with [Vampiric Touch]
mean while i think they should remove [Vampiric Touch] and make it in to a passive that poc from Shadow crash
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100% on the targeted thing. Besidesss. Shadow magic is generally less dependent on the location of the enemy, it haunts them wherever they go, why not this one then?
The main reason I donât want crash or any dot spreader as a spender is it makes it hell to start from 0 insanity. Maybe once you get rolling itâs less of a problem.
Youâre suggesting I sear until I earn 30 insanity, then crash, then sear for actual damage? I mean, maybe? Itâs something to do while the tank zooms around, but itâs not something I can do while moving.
I donât know if they balance sear around just the sw:pain but because dark void with its larger target count and superior aim is STILL A 30 SECOND CD, crash wins because VT just does so much more for us.
No talent put in a choice node with Misery will ever be taken.
If dark void had low CD and sw:pain had a serious insanity generation I think we could be in a good spot for mass aoe? But often youâre not mass AoEâing, youâre doing 8 targets (I have no idea about keys above +16)
I can agree on spender its just shadow crash doesnât work inside moving meta.
blizzard need to fix this also 30 sec cd doesnât work.
it works absolutely fine for me, i really like our dungeon playstyle atm. if you dont like it thats ok but dont say that like its a fact, it is not.
I think the m+ playstyle works better higer health it has and if your dps isnt monks or BM hunters you compete with but I guess it is what it is. Still wondering why this nerf isnt only a pvp one like
But blizzard are one to make one wondering.
yeah the dmg i can do depends mostly on how bad the other dps are, the less dmg they do the more i will do. 
but thats a preseason and a pug thing.
the embrace nerf is really sad, it feels really good if it really has an impact. in sl it was just a useless button bc it very rarely changed anything, i was happy to have this as a new piece of utility. but weâll see, maybee it still works at least a bit
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It works on paper. But in reality not really still Miss spamable Mind sear it feels like 90% of shadow priest identity is gone.
Shadow crash is ok fun to have dot spread its sad doesnât spread to more than 8 adds when you got like 20 adds which makes it a problem then you have nothing to follow up on with impacts like warlocks Rain of fire mages blizzard and arcane explosion why shouldnât Priest be able to do those impacts without all the clunk fiesta blizzard adds in-.
Monk are a hybrid class their damage is astounding.
Blizzard arenât there yet when it comes to shadow. [Idol of Yogg-Saron] should be a cd on demand when you got or have to aoe stuff. Like same with [Idol of CâThun] they could have been CDs that you pressed to have on demand when aoe is heavy. Like the Pve Crew for shadow could make so much of shadow in Pve if they had the balls of the PVP shadow crew. Just make [Dark Ascension][Void Eruption] instant cast and remove the GCD etc etc would make the mythic + version of priest funnier to play.
Personally I expect more of the dev team bit disappointed.
Outlaw rogue is capped on 8 targets snd still considered meta so i dont think the shadowcrash cap on 8 dots is that impactful. It still feels weird to hit every mob and not dit all of them but i understand rhose caps are necessary to balance the dmg between the classes.
I agree that the mechanic of yogg is kinda weird with that âcast spell x like 20 times and smt triggersâ, they do that on several specs atm. Its visually nice but a stupid mechanic, why not spawn it automaticly with our ascension or void eruption. Or make it a full pet. Let it dot enemys with each hit, idk.
The spec isnt fully finished yet. But its still a much better base to evolve from than the sl shadow. At least for me
They should finally make it a priority to finish it though, its a construction site for so long now 
In a sense feel It took 1 step forward, but 10 steps backwards Mind Sear shouldnât be a spender this is the first thing they should revert back to the way it was so you can channel it to farm up insanity.
They need to make [Dark Ascension][Void Eruption] Instant cast for pve.
add [Idol of CâThun] as a spender that you press to spawn a lot of Void lings on the floor that channels stuff make it cost 50 Insanity and the Follow mind sear or Mind Flay/Mind spike of the shadow priest and each time you press it it prolongs the duration.
Then make [Idol of Yogg-Saron] a spender cost 50 insanity Make it stackable each time you press it it prolongs your duration of The thing from Beyond like it isnt hard to brain storm fun gameplay for shadow.
Like the way they are going they just need to brain storm more. Hope the next expack is more gameplay for the money.
And less of a clunk fiesta
I loved the four set shadow had in season 4 of shadowlands blizzard needs to bring back gameplay like that that four set was fun to stack up make stuff coexsist with spells more rather than each time you reach 25 a thing spawn or chance on proc a void ling its to rng based.
Shadow is to much of a RNG bias class at the moment they should brain storm more.
I like mind sear as a spender, it gives me much more flexibility in aoe. First pressing a weak mindsear and then doing dmg with nightmare was an annoying ramp up bc if u had to move after 2 gcds it was almost wasted, u had to cast the whole channel to get good dps.
The mind sear spender makes it possible to just du one tick and then move without losing dps, thats much more forgiving in dynamic m+ situations and thats why i like it much more.
Generally i think its much more intuitive and less complicated than in sl and i appreciate that. Maybe it just fits my playstyle more though
But i like your idea, maybe spawning multiple things with yogg with slightly different skins would be awesome.
I dont think these are the only ways to solve it, they dont âhave toâ like you said it, but it would be a playstyle i would definitively enjoy.
if you target a chargeing add your ***** if you get knocked back your ***** if you get silenced stuned fear trapt your *****
But ok you have a point but the counter is it works on paper not in reality.
But mind sear as a spender feels sloppy redone blizzard can do better.
No u r not bc u can start the next channel and instantly do dmg again in your first tick
Works pretty well in the reality i live in.
U could call it lazy bc its not a full rework and theres no big vision behind it but its cutting some useless dead weight off the spec and thats kinda what it needed. Now they need to sort their many ideas in the tree and connect them into cohesive playstyles, then it would be even better
thats what i think of this rework indeed blizzard should focus on next rework this backwash rework does not work.
Since our aoe relies either on spenders (sear) or cooldowns (crash, inescapable torment) then when youâre dry and have no dots up, youâre dead very fast.
I was doing Obsidian Citadel weeklies and had to kill the earth elementals, if you donât execute them quickly they split into 3 small mobs without the originalâs dots and I had to save shadow crash for this or Iâd be busy keeping myself alive indeed. But crash is total overkill for them, shooting sparrows with cannonballs. And holy nova is too weak. There is no medium.
I think Iâd like something that puts (reduced duration?) VT on just 3-5 mobs, no cooldown, and I think thatâd save me so much trouble in dungeons too. Puts less pressure on shadow crash. No, we donât need more spells, but we do need some convenience and flexibility, room for error. If you fully execute our rotation you can do massive damage, but itâs all or nothing innit. My logic; use your 3-5 targets to build insanity to Sear the rest. Other dot classes donât really have that problem, but oh well.
Yeah the aoe of shadow is kind of dead this season. Wish they reverted Mind sear back we lack so much aoe now. Monks and Bm does easyer AOE dps.
Yeah they need to fix our dot spread shadow crash doesnât work in M+ It feels lack lusting. The 30 sec wait and rng luck on making a land shot feels awkward. They should totally work on shadow right now we seriously need some love right now.
I think I never played in a xpac where the difference in dmg was so absurd as it is. The top meta classes can sometimes make 35% more of your dmg depending on dungeon setup. I feel they need to hotfix asap, forget about this RWF for a minute and actually start to act on these outliers, also please communicate with us ⌠I feel there is no communication from whoever is working on SP for a while, just a simple post here would make wonders for the community. I guess the ânewâ blizz didnt arrived on this part yet?