Which they should have added in to DF but in last second didn’t.
It was a smart person who came up with something uniquely but blizzard didnt acknowledge it.
I will rest my case with shadow crash does not work.
Eh, the concept of some passive carrying the specc isnt a smart move. Like saying azerite gear having a 1000 procs that doubled ur dps was good.
How abiut have a active design that does not depend on a passive to function so we csn be good all year round.
Also it was a tier set, which means our class design wasnt hinged on it. If they put it into the class itself. It will be balanced based on it.
Shadow priest had passives that was great it was a reason to take a priest we had haste given to raid from our shadowform which was removed.
we had vampiric embrace as a buff which was to great since it out healed the healers in cata.
we had cascade which was the best aoe design the world has ever seen passively in wod.
We had instant cast Dark Ascension movement speed that wasnt 40% turtle but 70% Mount speed.
and everything wasn’t a GCD.
Blizzard should remake shadow and give shadowform baseline raidwide buff all players with 5% haste and remove Pi and give us Blood lust.
they can do so much good rather than so much crap. This version isn’t even decent.
They need to make people want to take us in to m+ raids etc. Not just Rogues monks and evokers.
Bl wont help us, too many already provide it.
Im afraid i disagree, your looking at a season 4 build with 2 years of changes and additions made.
Thats the issue.
Notorously season 1, reworks have been either OP or underpowered. When it comes to shadow season 1
I think the current design can be built on and it does have potiental, its just oversights need revisiting to bring uptoo standard.
However i can agree with reinstalling haste into shadow form. I think theres also some points of the talent tree that i think could work better.
Shadow absolutely has too many ‘Buttons for the sake of buttons’ in its raiding rotation. But you’re right, the answer isn’t pruning the abilities away, it’s rearranging the tree so compelling active spells compete more clearly with compelling passive talents. The way to build a spec on single target shouldn’t be to pick every active button on the tree. Shadow currently running DA, Bender, Crash, Void Torrent, Halo, and Mindgames is ridiculous.
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That be true, its raiding rotation can feel rather bloated compared to its m+ builds, it prolly could do with a small trim in areas via a changing around its talent trees.
Likely just PTSD from the last pruning we saw where something silly likeover 60% of class abilities were deleted 
Look at Holy 8 bottoms to push that has a CD they need to redo priest in general I like that we got renew and stuff and some holy spells back to shadow. But this version feels like a fork compare to shadowlands version spoon.
maybe they should just make it like a mega cd like warlocks Seed?
I also don’t get how shadow can go from decent to somewhat awkward each new season we get.
And yet be still ok in pvp doesn’t matter what season.
Its just pitiful to deal 66k dps aoe meanwhile everyone 140k 170k else aoe cost no recourses and don’t get interrupted by you having to walk out from swirls they should just revert mind sear make it like it always was.
They should delete shadow crash add cascade as a spender that dots everything with VT
This season of Decline line is the worst shadow ever witness Its utter trash how incompetent’s the devs are. 
Like been 2 weeks no changes.
wake up from the chrismas coma buff shadow this season is unplayable in PVE
Idk man, damage in keys feels like the only complaint I don’t have about Shadow right now.
I feel like we have no sustain damage when shadow crash is up you feel ok when its down or missed you feel awful and get punished for it.
Also not having any aoe on demand feels clunky fiesta.
Also giving away Pi and you get no rewards from it or that our dots ticks more when that player hits our targets we dotted during Pi idk twin priestess does not work for shadow.
We keep getting declined been waiting for blizzard to rework shadow some in 10.1 but very disappointed Tbh.
Only rework for halo and divine star to give insanity this feels like a joke.
I think mind sear as a spender would had worked 10 years ago now it does not during all these stun fears knockbacks and swirls. Blizzard should remove mind sear and give cascade back as a spender instead in the talent row in the mind sear talent row also make shadow crash affect targets 20 targets and make it a target lock spell and have a bigger hit box.
They should buff Psychic link up to 100% and make Mind blast have 3 charges and make mind blast affect 3 targets with VT and add mind bender as a permanent pet.
im a Subpar Shadow priest… and i rly mean that, im in no fashion actually good at Shadow priest.
and i’ve done 109k in a AoE fight. with No tier Set.
its Not unplayable, we arent meta. but to call us unplayable is alittle extreme.
i’ve never missed a Shadow crash, however sure its likely frustrating for those who do.
this would be a REALLY bad move, its very likely our ST DPS Would get hard nerfed with such amplification, 100% on every target would be INSANELY overpowered in a AoE fight.
also inescapable torment would need removing if bender was to become a Permanant pet, it’d be insane to leave such a Passive u’d have to make it a Pet CD instead.
you cant buff in these extremes.
regardless of what u wanna Post regarding the Logs, or DPS Lists. the fact is, the top to bottom DPS Disparity is Most defintly not wide enough to cater to such a MAJOR buff.
u would take shadow from Mid pack. to Litterally the very top over night adding this.
i dont wanna be overbuffed, to get nerfed 4 weeks later, Imho, i’d rather a steady flow of buffs to parts of the core Shadow to push it upwards, rather then A Pendulum swing effect with huge buffs followed by huge nerfs.
This version of shadow is hot garbage.
people want legion priest so much why cant blizzard release a private server for it add back mind sear its frustrating to deal 0 aoe when everyone else is.
This december buff feels like nothing a un set bonus ilvl382 DH does 170k in 1 sec meanwhile im at 50k after 1 mind sear. GG blizzard gg.
Also personally think this version is the sloppiest joe fix ever witness who though about making mind sear a spender should seriously go back to playing road blocks.
Or minecraft.
Either remove mind sear. Or add cascade as alternative gameplay so we can deal damage while moving this sloppy joe expack feels sloppy joe all over.
I asked for a spender and mind sear as a spender does not work it feels like you have no damage after you’ve pressed it. You just sits there and see the melee people doing 240k 350k aoe meanwhile your there trying to dot 20 stuff after you have landed a crash this is the worst gameplay yet seen shadow play as also dont care if people like it. It feels unfun to not be able to deal damage on raids fights where adds are spread you have literally no chance in hell on fights such as [Sennarth, the Cold Breath] you just sit there toggle boss and the big spider add.
Blizzard needs to wake up from the coma are you seriously letting shadow be worthless the whole expack.
They should make Cascade in to a talent row so you can choose from having either mind sear or cascade then on loosed spread add fights you can cast cascade.
I personally don’t know what blizzard are doing anymore but this version feels rushed and not a completed version PVP wise Its ok PVE RAID wise its not working.
this isnt legions version of priest. and we both know it, trying to proclaim such is a lie. Mind sear WAS old Mind sear in Legions build of the class.
170k i dont think they are unless ur comparing people on 2 different ilevels?. and im capable of over 100k AoE Burst lol
im bad at Shadow. and i can Top a DPS meter. im sorry, but its really NOT this bad in the slightest.
nah, BFA Was the sloppiest lol, it came out with staying in void form being a DPS Loss.
Ok, its Busted AF in PvP lol.
I dont get why u think it doesnt work, it does work, yeah it needs fixs and some changes but it defintly it is Working. lol
Cascade wont fix Shadow. Halving the CD on Shadow Crash and Buffing our DoT Damage, which will increase both our ST and AoE would be a Vast improvement comparitively to adding Cascade.
our raid DPS Is the problem. M+ is pretty Ok.
RNG PROCs on Mind sear and having to wait for adds to come seeing a monk deal damage free without any problem same with DH this is just punnished game play compare this shadowlands we are litterally forced to wait for a mind sear proc then wait till adds spawn and not use our Devouring plague at all becouse we need to dps adds.
This version makes no sense in ‘’’
PVE content.
Its a wanna be legion shadow priest rework. They need to go away from legion and be more from now and not blizzard 10 years ago.
Pretty sure DH does have elements of rng.
Also, i dont rly rely on mind sear procs, crash, bender, 2x mind blasts, void torrent, 2x mindblasts. Mind sear, into mind flay, and using mind blasts as avaliable will generate alot of burst AoE alone.
Sure u can say alot of CDs. However every other class also needs to blpw all their CDs to realistically put out the same numbers.
The class in m+ is pretty decent right now, ultimately the improvements needed is reducing the CD on shadow crash, and increasing our ST dps.
Thatd be enough
This concept it dont work is simply not true.
The design does make sense.
Like it very much does, hence why i was able to walk into the class and within about a hour understand the rotation.
The issue is primarily, shadow priests current ST ability whjch drags it down. Ofcourse its Kick CD is also anptjer issue in ST.
Overbuffing isnt the realistic answer.
Make the kick 30sec baseline, make the talent reduce it to 24.
Reduce shadow crash to a 20 second CD.
Increase shadow word pain by 10%
Increase vampiric touch by 10%
Increase mindblaat by 10%
If it still isnt enough knock mindblast up another 10%.
These will bleed into our AoE dps slightly in the same process, increasing by a margin as multi dots and psychic link take buffs via this.
These sorta buffs are far less likely to throw shadow priest too far forward it will just cause us to get nerfed bsck to square 1.
And this time make them pve only
You lack understanding between the builds if you honestly feel this way.
Shadow in legion and now have barely anything in common in playstyle, shadow in legion was a game of a ever increasing pace of void form, while eventually spamming void spike and mind blast back to back to have a ever increasing ramping damsge.
Shadow now is most drfintly not that.
The design conceptually arent even in the same ball park
Honestly I’m beginning to think you’re just bad at shadow. And that’s fine, it’s a game after all and you don’t get anything out of being good at it but these numbers you’re quoting are so far removed from reality…
If you’re not keeping up with similarly geared / optimised specs in M+ then that’s a you problem.
If shadow goes from rank 4 in shadowlands s4 they are doing something ok.
Then down to rank 21th in 1 patch then you gotta know they are doing something wrong.
Why not improve on the version they had in S4 if it deals better damage that’s all I’m gonna say.
If you are hard headed its not my fault I’m just gonna point out this rework is trash.
Having no free aoe no dot spread to unlimited targets, No reliable aoe like living shadow just a sloppy joe from beyond that pops out when you don’t need him.
Yeah good luck trying to convince me this trash works. It’s the devs being lazy and not motivated, They should have done something better than this.
They can’t go way worse since bottom is cleared in this season with shadow.
last boss mythic does not even have an priest logs. http s://www. warcraftlogs. com/zone/ran kings/31#boss=2607 &class=Priest
I guess Ellipsis is right, seeing all those numbers you are posting from day to day, you are probably just a very bad player. There are literally 2 reasons SP is doing bad in dungeons right now:
- You dont play the spec how it is supposed to be. You dont understand Shadow Priest
- The key is too low
So when i see ppl running 13 - 15 keys, its always number 1. You should definitley take a break from SP because you have been spending the whole shadowlands expansion to cry like a baby how garbage the spec is and now you spend the whole 2 months wishing it back.
If there is ONE thing about SP that is NOT bad right now, then it is the damage in dungeons. You should definitely work on yourself before you shout out to devs every single post.
I dont need to convince you lol. It doesnt bother me in the slightest if u wanna go on being wrong lol.