A REAL buff this time, and that’s coming from a guy who doesn’t play Havoc.
Why ? Becaue that way, you will have a good excuse to nerf vengeance. I see VDH everywhere this days, it’s such a bore… the other tanks deserve some love too ! Or buff hard lackluster tanks (I can dream on).
So yeah, heavy buffs to havoc.
Nah I don’t even touch that garbage spec havoc anymore, play vengeance in all content.
whats wrong with havoc? it was good in legion, dominated in bfa. i seriously doubt havoc is bad dps right now. warcraftlogs says otherwise
It’s decent at cleave but bad single target dps, boring rotation, interruptible eye beam, avoidable glaive tempest, bad legendaries, no burst, and worst of all no survivability which makes it obsolete for pvp.
Coulden’t have listed everything better myself, well spoken sir.
Havoc is 25% behind some specs in Castle Nathria Mythic. Stop trolling.
No it’s not. On Kael fight Warlocks parse 9K and we parse 6k. We’re not even good at AoE.
On Huntsman Warlock does 8.7K, DH does 6.6K, the best DH does 75% of the best Lock’s dmg
Don’t say we’re ‘‘decent at cleave’’ if we’re 25% behind on cleave fights. It’s just spreading misinformation and making the situation look better than it is.
We’re HORRIBLE. 25% behind is not acceptable.
you’re in the middle of the pack, looks fine to me.
as soon as dh isnt completely OP or FOTM anymore you all start losing it LMAO 
1/8 Normal 192 ilvl raider coming here to tell us how balance works.
Anyhow we’re 25% behind on some fights, that’s not fine.
Oh, and stop trolling. Reported.
as soon as dh isnt completely OP or FOTM anymore
We weren’t OP or FOTM in any BFA raid tier. Name a single one in which we were.
Don’t get baited by the obvious troll guys, he doesn’t realize WHY havoc was never fotm or op in BFA, and WHY ppl thought it was.
I want to reiterate that if you see s coming to our forums to troll you should report the F out of them. No mercy.
git gud my fellow demon hunters
Also, I guess you were ALL NOT PREPARED for the nerfs
Imma head out, I know where the door is
Fixing fel rush would be a great start. Make the distance the same each time you use it, and make sure you keep your forward momentum (
) when used in mid air.
Oh and increase the duration of momentum by 2 seconds, and fel blade damage by 10%. That’s all it needs imo 
It reminds me when fel rush would cause a brutal game crash when used in Legion. Ahh, Legion, that was a good time to play Havoc.
I still have DC issues since legion when I’m about to land and use a skill at the same time. Or when I land after dropping from somewhere. Or when I’m entering a vehicle…
I doubt they ever really fix those 
Really bad suggestions
No one wants to play momentum for starters.
instead
PVE Situations
Increase the raw output of chaos strike DPS
Generate Fury with Eye Beam
PVP situations:
Don’t force us to use Shroud of the Darkest Hour (Triggers Darkness at 35% automatically) (The only way to go if you wanna do 1800+ arena)
Make this a PVP talent
So that we have a DPS type legendary nearly all of the classes right now.
Hi, I’m no one. I play momentum and I enjoy it a lot, besides of fel rush being buggy.
its very yucky
/10 chars
There are other classes/speccs that are much more in need of a buff then Havoc DH