I played TBC on Firemaw. Plenty of people sat on the house at Cenarion Refuge hitting people without retaliation, the cart in Terrokar that is an alliance questhub, etc. In cata on Gehennas I saw alliance sitting on top of that building that the defender spawns on in Tol barad, killing people trying to get the daily quests out of reach of the guards. Blizzard doesn’t care and TBH I wouldn’t expect people to get banned for such things.
You still can’t get it?
Firemaw and Gehennas are PVP realm’s you PvE Andy has nothing to do there.
You only cry and can’t even stand it that PVP players obviusly wan’t a PVP realm!
Nobody care’s about your PVE questing experience. What usually happens if a faction camp’s a quest hub like in Anni, the other faction gather’s and defend it.
That was the reason those Alli player’s where there in tolbarad to provocate a fight. OMG
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What are you blabbering about? Are you still here after its clear Blizzard doesn’t want you? I was replying to the guy that said “exploiting” spots in the open world where guards don’t attack you is bannable.
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Cry me a river.
You only complain and cry and make noise about differen’t player types.
If someone want’s a PVP realm and its clearly the forum is now full of these people nobody cares about your opinion on this matter.
You don’t play PVP and you should not be on a PVP realm in the first place you don’t speak for their community simple as that!
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I do play PVP, you don’t know the first thing about me. But I play real pvp, arena, when its a patch I like to play arena in.
Thats not a PVP player its a PVE player who yet ques to another instance.
PVP isn’t killing lowbies in Hellfire Peninsula, sorry. Perhaps era or anniversary would be more to your liking?
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Thats what a PVP server is.
Also wpvp against other max level players. Its something a player has to deal with on a pvp server even songs are made in tribute of it. You are clowning yourself with PvE bias.
If you can’t handle being ganked just go to a PvE Server how it should be in the first place.
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L take. Huge L take. You’re the problem here.
PvP is a part of the game, a part of the game that was stripped out of retail with Warmode to appease players like yourselves who are so fragile they’ll flip out over a cartoon green man killing them two times in a row.
The same crowd that made retail a sprawling welfare mess where you can never fall behind. So what, you got camped? If you don’t like it, don’t play it as you lot love to say.
Gigadroolertake.
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Also i love how all these players that cheer for the death of world pvp are trying to act big and boast on how they play “real pvp in arena” yet hide behind alts that are on retail with really unimpressive ratings while calling people “hard stuck”.
If you are so high and mighty show us your real in game name and we can all judge. its not like you can get camped while questing anymore now is it ?.
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Yes, yeah, somehow you are right. When i did play WOW again after some 15 years and went back into it from Tbc1, i thought as ally on Firemaw from 3rd day of Cata2, why are there so few allies in TB tol barad, why only levelers in deepholm. Elsewhere no allies, hordes, no also not. Then from end s2 Firemaw non ally but horde then, i watched some human paladins fighting vs horde npcs in Orgrimmar. Well i saw them and did kill them, 1 2 times. But then they deactivated or it got bugged, crossrealmgrping with start of s3. As horde firemawer now then, i needed to go to somewhere, i thought Gehennas, to get a RBG win/loss conquest farm grp getting started. On Gehnnas as Horde, there were no grps, there were 2 and 1 was mine. For weeks. Every Week. There was no OpenPvP still as Horde on Gehennas, even if you would /target mate /duell in some Cata2-Pandaria2-Map, because there was neither Horde nor Ally again in different places. Now being Gehennas Horde until 5 days ago, nothing changed. I thought, my random today called casual BG in the wow inherent ui menu random BG INV Rate-instance mode function is too low for my expectencies, it was higher in s3 Cata2 and so on, s1 Cata2 s2 Cata2 different realms different factions. I went Ally again some 5 days ago as just mentioned. More invs, more fights, more diversity in spec gear skill everyone welcome. But the Chat on Ally random BG side is more quiet than on Horde random BG side, it was louder in Cata2 on Ally at least until end s2 Cata2. There was no OpenPvP in Cata2 and is no in Pandaria2, no Hordes on Gehennas outside no Allies on Firemaw outside, Lakeshire also empty, Everlook also. No WOWers there. In both of these 2 Games, emptiness. Where are the ones to fight, openly.
There are no Players for OpenPvP, there is zero happening outside in WoW-Maps.
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in EN-EU pool, in GER-EU pool.
Well the OpenPvP Exp as Ally Firemawer in s1 s2 Cata2 was, seeing some UD Frostmages fighting some TB Levelers. You did spectate from Stealth.
The Variant as Horde Rogue on Firemaw from end s2 Cata2 until some 3 weeks into s3 Cata2 was, you went to Elwynn Firemaw Forrest, you did drag some auto PVE Allies into PVP mode, did wait for them to duell each other and to forget that you are there, and then you deathstabbed some 1% HP duellist or you did intervene on both 2 when being low in HP. Otherwise you did fled 10 Allies in Elwynn. Someone who did Raid as Moonkin Horde on Firemaw the Auction House’s NPCs on Firemaw, got banned because he did that. Because he did stick to PVP.
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Since Pandaria, Durotar on EN-EU Gehennas-PVP, is constantly without Level 90ers. Imagine. /who 90 Durotar 0. In Cata2 there were some. I repeat 0 in Pandaria2. No interest.
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Copy paste your post into chatgpt and ask it to make it readable i beg.
add warmode
Firemaw and Gehennas are PvE realms. The PvP tag was merely a formality. There is no PvP happening in there, and people playing there are PvE players.
Sorry, but if your Toyota Prius has a “Lamborghini” logo on it, it’s still Toyota Prius. Especially now that the Lambo logo was replaced with the appropriate Toyota logo
World PvP had already been hit hard by layering, and with the faction imbalance left completely unmanaged, things only got worse. Then PvE players piled onto PvP servers just because they had higher populations, which destroyed what little balance remained, and people naturally stopped playing. In the end, it wasn’t the players who “chose” to ruin PvP servers it was Blizzard’s design decisions that pushed them to it.
And there’s no logical reason not to add at least one PvP server. Because let’s be honest: if Blizzard won’t do it, people will go to private servers or simply move on to another game. Thinking you can force us to play your way is nothing but a fantasy.
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So, why people couldnt keep this balance themselves? Why this balance is achievable only if blizzard doing additional restrictions? Why, when community had a choice, they prefer to make all big realms monofaction (de-facto PvE)? Why community ITSELF couldnt make at least 1 balanced PvE server in EU? Maybe because community doesnt care of WPvP at all, and dont really need it?
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Beause players don’t sit around coordinating population ratios ?they just follow the crowd. That’s how herd behavior works in every MMO: people move where the majority is, because it feels safer and more convenient. Left unmanaged, that always snowballs into imbalance.
It’s not the community’s job to run population control, it’s Blizzard’s. Other MMOs deal with this through incentives, caps, or transfers, because they understand players will always optimize for advantage. Pretending that the collapse of PvP servers proves “nobody cares about WPvP” is wrong it just proves Blizzard never managed their realms properly.
And let’s not forget: when people had the choice between PvE and PvP realms, the majority picked PvP. That demand was real. Blizzard erased it by letting imbalance rot the servers and then removing the option entirely.
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People only picked pvp realms since it had better people playing on them, and this time around in classic, people went to where their fav streamer settled, no one wanted to do world pvp, it was never balanced, whom ever had the bigger number of players won majority of the time, the only ones wanting world pvp now is the greifers, and for players and blizzard thats just more a headache than its worth, face it, world pvp is not a thing people want to enjoy when their doing pve content
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Not a headache for blizzard since to go get some good world pvp the only thing to do is let people enjoy the game as they want and not reply to the complaint of some pve boy who pick pvp realm by mistake.
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People see people and join end of.
Trick is not to give people a choice.
make 1 pvp realm 1 pve realm…
if they get too full spool up another.