Blizzard killed mage

Classes Mage
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Not sure why its hard to understand that after these nerfs mage viability outside raiding is significantly damaged specifally for fire mage

raid:
Mage in general is an intellect buff bot in raids like it has been since nylotha, every mythic raiding guild needs 1 but above that is near useless as we’re never top dps

m+:
Fire mage was meta in season 1 because it had uncapped aoe when other specs didnt similar for boomie and its viability in season 1, fire still has great on demand burst like in season 1 where it could solo pridefulls however with the current ignite nerf and tuning our spec barely beats tanks in overall,

Frost mage was only overpowered in season 2 and meta due to the heavy kiting required on certain tanks like prot pala but it also had damage for every pack with orb being up for every pack however after the orb changes at the tail end of season 2 and now with the current dmg nerf frost mage lost an significant dmg portion

Arcane mage has never been and will continue to be unplayable for the highest keys purely for the way they deal dmg likewise they require way to much setup in siphon storm and radiant spark stacks

pvp:
mage has been overpowered every single expansion every single patch for pvp but who cares about that mode

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In season 2 frost mage had a couple of IVs, RoP and several orbs up for each pack. Its was broken and its dmg scaling against mob count was crazy. Tanks were much better at surviving by then.

Its hard to see how it effects its viability as we are weeks away from the raid and m+ opening and they are still tuning everything.

Also fire mage ST since double leggo/tier has been insane in SL.

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So only good at the tail end of the expac. How many raids have you got to no1 on the dps charts just out of interst, where it was all mains and not your guilds alts?

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You can’t swap there? Oh hell. Good thing Im not doind PvE. That’s just absurd restriction.

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You selected Flamestrike, wich means your build already bad :rofl:

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And that is sadly why they have to nuke PvE since they don’t know how to balance both.

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Honestly, PvP should just have its own dedicated balance. Or better yet, just be a seperate game entirely. It constantly clashes with PvE.

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48

Why do you even care about what Spec is No 1 on the DPS Charts, if all you do is AOTC Heroic Raiding? Not like you’re a RWF Raider, who needs to pump the max amount of damage possible.

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Why do you even post when your point is so silly?

Can mages Tank? No
Can mages Heal? No

If you pick a dps only class, you should be able to get to the top of the dps charts.

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50

When the “why not text” is longer then the “why should you text”

Press F for Frostmage

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I get that point, but again, you’re raiding HEROIC.
I can only speak from my own expierence, but most heroic raiders that reroll to the “Meta” spec, often can’t perform decently with said “Meta” spec and get out DPS by even the most undertuned spec in the game.

In Addition there is pretty much ALWAYS 1 Mage spec in the Top 5

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Only a third of the expac!! How dare they! We are mages we should always be the best!
Your so entitled, easy to see why people dislike mages. As it goes im always battling it out near the top of the dps meters cos im a try hard in a hc guild so :yum:

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How dare you put Work into your class to max your DPS!

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Yea sure kid, we believe you.

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55

Mage has been saved!
I am here now, it’s okay guys, let’s from a circle and hold hands.

We are not the worst class.
Just play Fire

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56

Idk about other specs,but do you really expect Frozen orb to remain untouched?

Just look at frost talent tree…its like you have 5 SL lege items equipped + some additional stuff like fractured frost.

I have been frost mage main for the past 2 seasons,but lets be real here…

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absolutely, considering there’s at least ten other specs that should have been nerfed before frost. one of those specs is arcane, so blizzard nerfing frost and fire instead makes this very funny!

there’s three, and you’ll only ever run one for m+. fractured frost/cold front is so bad it’s unplayable, and you won’t have the points for slick ice.

in regards to power level the frost tree is just sad compared to meta specs, but what’s even more disappointing is the lack of choice.

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Arcane doesn’t need a nerf.
It is already unplayable, no matter the dps output.

I was messing around with Arcane in the beta, up untill +15 keys everything died so extremely fast my DPS output was zero.
The setup time for that spec is littarly stupid.

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well that just sounds like a player issue - arcane was incredible on beta and is incredible now. you’ll just have to play the spec more to get a feel for how to play it correctly in m+. the APL was also recently optimized so your ideal TOTM windows on aoe are very easy to pull off.

chances are you were also testing with bug abusing DH and monk players dealing 3x the damage they will be dealing on live

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So you are doing ok with arcane spec? Just asking.

I haven’t played mage in a long time and levelled this new alt through DF and found it slow and tough, very weak damage spells and a lot of downtime healing up. I watched other classes and they seemed to be much stronger than me.

So having hit 70 I thought I would try out my destro lock in DF, she’s just 60. What a difference: chalk and cheese. She sailed through mobs with ease, far higher dps and damage, no downtime and I got her to 62 in no time.

Any help and advice much appreciated.