Blizzard looking to remove cooldown tracking addons

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/sq5qikAi5C

Apparently you won’t be able to track anything from party or enemy cd, this include kicks for example.

Looks like a good changes to reduce the power of addons cause it got too far ngl, but playing the game as caster/healer with no way to know when kicks are a available or not is extremely horrible, nobody will play anything but mêlee.

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  • AWC players will remain uninfluenced.
  • Aspiring Elites will have a harder time closing the gap to them.
  • Newcomers will have absolutely no idea how much stuff exists in the game and will have no comprehensive resources to realize it through practice.

It sounds like a good thing on paper, but pedagogically it makes absolutely no sense if you don’t provide a supplement for the missing utility, or an alternative source for learning. The addons, while acting as a crutch in many cases, also served the purpose of learning and knowledge acquisition. Without them, all the low players will have an absolutely terrible time learning anything and closing the gap to better players who had the privilege of learning through them for years.
It’s like suddenly prohibiting the use of student books at school. The talented students will remain uninfluenced, the middle pack will have a harder time becoming better and the bottom of the bin won’t even learn the basics due to the lack of comprehensible resources and inability to use the advanced resources (the internet) effectively - be it for the lack of overall competency, or just plain innocence to the extent of necessary preconcepts.

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I hope its will happen.
Time to increase skill, kinda 6 sense will be needed, to know cds.

“game run better now, guys we removed addons” :+1:

Will be very nice to overlap 10 cds or not see cc the target already is on

I wonder how would one even play warlock or sp without seeing kicks, so all just go play war or dh then? And then what when the soft algo tires avoid same specs in same game.

Not to mention that there will be even less ppl wishing to heal when its pretty pointless if you cant see what the guy has just pressed or still has unused.

oh nooo, before legion players could not play the game.
Addons make game scripted AF

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Reddit tittle says only about party’s cds, nothing about enemies in the topic

But removing tracking enemy’s cds beside kicks would be good, monkey lab arena players now react only to beep bop alarms on 200% volume

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They just can’t fire that big loser Ion and his crappy changes? I hope he gets booed the hell out of him at the next BlizzCon. The game will never go in the right direction with such a fun and gameplay killer like this guy.

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I think the changes are amazing and they should have done it long time ago still thoo i dont understand why party members cd those are not so big problem and its just feel right to see ur friends cds but tracking enemy cooldowns should be removed

It was also mentioned that DR tracker will be part of default UI. Good changes all around IMO. What is core part of the game needs to be in default UI, what is non essential and sometimes maybe even game breaking to an extent needs to be removed. Tracking all your enemy CDs is just too much. All mayor defensives and offensives already have visual que

most abilities when they whiff or are used in general have such glaring obvious sounds or visual queues that you should be alright even without cds

When it comes to kicks, can’t they just be tracked through the combat log?

That’s the point of this change
Access to the combat log by addons will be removed “some day”

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Theres always been addons? Anyways to be able not overlap all cd you need to be able to see what your party member has currently running or what they have not used yet. To be able to use cc on target or read game in general would also need some addon like bigdebuff or omniaura to show what cc his currently on or what condition he has running, or we will press our cc to overlap with others cc or use cc on immunities.

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Nullifying Shroud, 3x charges he has on to be immune for all cc. I imagine you dont want to use your blind or kidney randomly on target which has some immunity, if they disable all addons to be able to track conditions then such as bigdebuff/omniauras wont be able to show anything. The game will be incredibly awkward to play without able to tell conditions and looking at the million tiny icons for buff and debuff and dispellables and dots and all on unitframes row of buffs is not viable.

Some do some dont, how do you know mm has trueshot on for next 20 seconds if he press it mid of some giga explosions and all the splish splash glutter the game now has for visual effects, and its just one example, and even if some abilities would have more visual effects you wont be able to see it from under all visual effects.

After addons get removed, there will be people asking each other “Dude! Did you not see I cloned the target why you used blind on clone bro!” and the effects in modern wow look like this. Easy to see bigdebuff/omniaura showing something crucial from nameplate under there but not so easy to see anything at all from under the effects otherwise.

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it would be a really good thing. if they combine it with an class pruning (micro cc removal)

less but longer lasting cc what also have a longer cd.

i miss the time when Gladius was enough to play arena

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From my perspective things that need to be baseline improved are:

  • Raid frames buff/debuff filtering like BigDebuffs or OmniAuras. Default frames are unplayable. With the amount of crap buffs and debuffs you see nothing. You need to add priority for CC/Roots/important debuffs
  • Kicks tracking but not other CDs
  • Arena Frames improvement - I tried to give them chance in DF and they don’t show DRs. Also since healer PvP trinket change they show wrong timer. If they add DRs and allow us to filter them like RaidFrames + fix the Trinket timer they actually might be an improvement
  • Some extra timers on default Blizzard Nameplate Buffs. It’s cool they added them on default but timers would make refreshing dots on Affli/Shadow/Balance easier. Having them with no timers kinda make no sense.

I think that the result of disabling certain addons with the current game design will be that people will start dying right and left way faster. Blizzard will have to redesign specs but instead they will do the simpliest “workaround” and just buff our HP pools. That’s my predictions. We will see.

you know neither is gonna happen, and they wouldn’t make the info acquisition any easier despite increasing the barrier for entry.

we literally shine blue with wings, what else do you want, can’t you see me from 70 yards away through a pillar?

I cant, nor I could even if you were 10y in front of me under all the explosions and splish splosh visual effects in the game and meteors falling from the sky or the pet army of 20 dogs running around from bm and the like.

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