ok but how would the leave score work
would it go up when you leave because you are good at leaving?
or will it go down when you leave because leaving is bad?
Imo this is a pretty good suggestion, if a group collectively agrees that the key is lost, leaving it shouldn’t tag you, a system where people can be polled for it. You say it has to be like LoL surrender but imo they already have a system in place where they just need to change the wording and the functions a bit: vote kick
it already counts votes and does something as result of the outcome of those votes, so change the functional outcome and the thing being voted on and you’re there.
If you believe some of the claims it’s like 50% of keys. I think bad players have people leave their keys because they are bad.
I goofed in a Cinderbrew and chewie was too close to the boss when i taunted him (the social pull distance is bigger than i thought) and i wiped the party. People still didn’t leave. Key was completely without incident from then on.
If you are consistent with rare mistakes people will almost never leave your keys.
People can overlook mistakes, as long as it isnt as soon as the key starts/or constant throughout the dungeon.
I can count the times I left first on one hand, but I did it today in an 11 Dfc. People didn’t know the mechanics and after the 5th wipe on last, yes last, boss I snapped and said sorry have to go. So, I should get bad rating or what?
Imo, sometimes people need to decrease the key level they have instead of holding hostage others and just go on with their day.
No there is not anything that’s counterproductive in this case. If they don’t want it on their score/char name or what ever. Then simply just don’t leave keys it is what it is. Incase someone does a weird sort of revenge report, haggle to blizzard. The majority of the community would have good results of this. And the leavers can go play something else. When you you go into a keystone, you are kinda accepting the terms of the dungeons time, it’s not really deeper than that at all.
I would do it like this: Percentage of keys, where you either went offline for more than 3 min, or were the first to leave a group. This way most ppl will have a reasonable average leaver %, and bad actors have a way higher %. It should be reset each season though, so ppl can reform. Also, absolute numbers shouldn’t be shown, only relative, so nobody gets “punished” for simply playing a lot.
If the group leader kicks someone, nobody gets leaver percentage, so keyholders and premades can circumvent this, if a key bricks or a friend has DC
And why does it not have a positive impact on M+? Can you clearify why NoP is a neccassity(spelled) for quite a bunch of people to enjoy the game?
Why is it counterproductive that i’m able to sort in people having a toxic behaviour? What’s the point of social bans then? it doesn’t matter then. It’s just “counterproductive”. It has nothing to do with me wanting to agree with you ór not. But you are fundementally wrong.
As I explained leaver data is meaningless, people abandon keys all the time even with their own groups or have pushed to a point they can’t complete, or decide to start over etc… Not to mention that you’ll just have someone kicked by the lead and given the leave penalty. Or people will simply go offline to avoid an record and then the next person the person who leaves incurs the penalty.
When did people ask for leaving penalty on people being kicked? what? XD if people press leave group, it’s an intentional action, with multiple clicks even?
It’s not meaningless but blatantly ignoring this is a problem, and just “look away” is actually a even bigger problem. what ever dude/dudess.
In a five man party whether you leave or are removed it’s the same thing. Its just ‘x’ left the group. Besides if the way to avoid a penalty is to remove someone first, then all you need to be is the lead. Most commonly tanks are the lead in groups.
It’s clear you don’t want to accept anything that counters your proposed system. It’s ironic that you talk about ignoring when that’s all you are doing.
bro players like you are only exlusive to wow… its like u are hired by blizzard to be blizzards lawyer to make them dont do anything and cancel every call to improve game you guys are extremely strange to me…
you are telling me punishing people for that do RL emergencies is bad or leavers is bad but wasting other 4 innocent ppl time is not ?
idk how your brain proces and works but stop bro… this is a game this is not your familys honor okay?? stop it.
if this is bad practice why tf all fighting games have it ?
bro if you were a game dev you would say uhh guys your rating droping after losing rbg or arena counterproductive blizzard wont track negative data LMAOOOO…
u dont know what u are talking about
wows problem is these some super ultra mega blizzard fanboys that back and support blizzard and they are againts every improvements to game… idk why u guys do this, idk why someone complain about game gets u trigered, its strange af.
when its a different game and someone sugest something their community is like YEAAA !!! TRUE… wow community is like nah and finds some random reason to make it seem bad idea… blizard devs are one of the luckiest devs in gaming sector with community like this.
most of you guys were againts mythic + scores tracking too but u were the first to jump on and use raider io and compliment blizzard when they add score to game… u are all hypocrite most of you just talk just for talking and seem intelegent and u are thinking u are smart and different when u oppose the idea of someone.
u just think wasting 30 min is normal thing and its counterproductive to do something againts it by preventing ppl to not waste their 30 min, bro people dont play this game 10 hour a day like you if 30 min is meaningless and u go ur next dungeon after that cus u do 10 key a day doesnt mean everyone is like that…
i hate people being smart when they are not… wow is filled with these ppl.
the ironic thing is when blizzard implement this system you will be the first on the line to praise and compliment blizzard and say how good of a system this is and u been wanting this in game for a long time ahahaha cause u are all hypocrite bro… most of the forum is, forum seen this countless times… some ppl againts things so stubbornly and i check their future posts and they all praising that thing they been againts and act like they been wanting that all along
