So Thunder Bluff, Silvermoon are not good enough to be counted? 
Also how about you now also have Southshore and Darkshore?
*this Southshore situation really disturbs me, I have so much memories from the past years there. I so much want the Alliance to reclaim it.
It is in the status of being rebuild. Like most alliance holdings pre cataclysm. Alliance took Southshore and Shadowfang keep. We know this from Exploring Azeroth Eastern Kingdoms. The Horde lost alot of land.
A bunch of tents on a mesa. Not a city.
Half in ruins to this day. Bob hasnât managed to rebuild it for 15 years.
Ohh you mean those cities that have no contribution to the Horde story anymore?
Those cities where you have zero incentive to ever visit after leveling your character?
Those cities 90% off the ppl forgot about?
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Thunderbluff I wouldnât even call a city though.
Never satisfied, territory hungry Horde ⌠things you are 
It is a native village. Serves well as player hub and looks pleasing to the eyes.
It reflects on tauren people and thier lore, which is heavily inspired by north america aboriginals.
It is in top ten of my most favorite places in the game.
Exactly my point.
If the Horde had the same amount of control over Kalimdor as the Alliance does for the eastern kingdoms then I wouldnât complain. But that is not the situation. All the Kalimdor Horde ever had before Cataclysm was the Barrens. And that place is a wasteland with pretty much no resources. Hell Orgrimmar has to import fresh water from Mulgore because Goblins poisoned the Southfury river.
Well, who are you blaming then, deal with the goblins, they are also a part of the Horde after all.
(one would wonder why).
To be fair, The Goblins are a neutral race.
That is why they have so many neutral âcapitalsâ themselfs, like Gadzegan and Booty bay.
The only reason Horde has them as a playable race is because they helped build Orgrimmar and ran the Zeppelin system used by the Horde.
No we arent. The horde value is and always was survival. Banding rag tag refugees and outcasts together to form the horde so that the horde survives. In hostile teritory that eventualy became our home. For that very reason races unlikely to join the horde of âbarbaric savagesâ like blood elves joined.
For that very reason horde works together with aliance when it is needed. Because to protect our home, our values, the survival of the concept of the horde, it goes above and beyond everything else.
Those are the foundations thrall built the horde upon. That is why horde is so inclusive and not picky.
You must pay no mind to the likes of Erevien who will always complain for the sake of complaining. Makes a great forum fool tho, it is always funny to read his posts, detached from both lore and reality.
Steamwheedle should have been the playable ones. Bilgewater was a new creation. Like that we would have gained lots of valuable cities like Gadgetzan and Booty Bay.
The Horde was founded as an army to conquer their enemies. Nothing to do with survival. That is just the lie Thrall told himself so he doesnât have to change the faction name into something less aggressive.
Ysera has rejected the claim of aspect. Merithra is the current leader and who will receive the aspect power.
Alternative would have been to get obliterated by either the Alliance or Horde since the Zandalari have proven twice they cant be left alone.
Can be rebuilt. While now also having access to Horde technology.
Its not. Their army wasnt present during the siege of the city. And the amount of people that died during their own civil war is not worth pointing out.
Alternative is the Zandalari leave and then get destroyed by the Alliance.
By being in the Horde they cant be invaded anymore. They are defended by people far stronger than them. And they dodged the bullet of getting destroyed.
Yes.
And has achieved nothing and nearly managed to cause the demise of his empire twice. Thrice if i include him ignoring zuls warning about the cataclysm.
If my âalmost succeededâ you mean getting his forces absolutely demolished by the Horde and Alliance then sure.
Is that way the Zandalari are on equal position as the entire Horde and only Talanji being part of the council and told them that this is non negotiable?
Erevien once again proving he has no idea about lore. Classic.
With the Focusing Iris. And Kalecgos had to interfere as to avoid Thrall having to kill her. Jaina was also subsequently forbidden from putting her hands on the Iris.
Even Malfurion said hes stronger during Cataclysm.
A Shaman who excels in using Elemental Magic losing in a fight where only warrior abilities are allowed against an Orc who was even for Orc standards basically on steroids? Say it aint so.
Yup, Erevien not having any idea what hes talking about as per usual.
And that is why I am playing Horde since I started in TBC 
I am proud to be horde, but would love too see some leadership change in Alliance, because right now it is prety boringâŚ
I donât know about Erevien, havenât been following their posts yet, but when I play a Horde char I donât feel territory-depraved.
the minute Talanji became ruler she was rejected by her people. They rather die then seeing her reign.
Canât. Because it is not relevant for the plot. Unlike Mary Sue Jaina.
Or go back to Troll only allies like it was before since the Horde has proven they let their allies down time and time again.
Read Shadowâs Rising. Talanji could barley muster 40 soldiers to stomp out the Widowâs bite rebellion.
The Alliance has no reason to attack them again because their threat has been eliminated.
The Horde is not strong. They had to rely on Anduin to even dare attack Orgrimmar and take it from Sylvanas.
So taking land is good. Glad we cleared that up.
Rastakhan outlived Barathen, Llane and Varian. And the people loved him as Talanji herself states.
The Horde council kept the Zandalari desire for revenge at bay. They rule Zandalar now. Talanji has sold her people out to foreign interests.
And now she has more power then ever before because she stole the powers of Lei-Shen.
Lol he barley touched her. All Thrall could do was to shield her blows. Without Kalecgos he would be dead now.
I follow the lore. And I see the bad hand the Horde gets handed. It is time someone stops this and get the faction back on track.
Alliance zones apart from the starting zones:
Duskwood, Redridge, Westfall, Wetlands, Loch Modan, Darkshore, Bloodmyst isle.
Horde:
Barrens, Azshara, Ghostlands.
You see the difference?
I am not sure about Darkshore. Itâs currently contested IMO.
Horde also has Hillsbrad, Silverpine, Stonetalon.
Ashenvale and Arathi are currently very heavily leaning toward âcontestedâ than Alliance.
Half of it was taken by the alliance in Bfa.
same as Hillsbrad. Bloodfang Worgen occupy Shadowfang Keep and Fenris isle.
The last Horde settlement there is the Warsong lumber camp. Night elves didnât agree to the peace treaty so they are free to kill Horde soldiers and the council did nothing to stop it.
Fully retaken by Danath Trollbane.
You might be curious to search in Google for âhorde and alliance faction war mapâ and the post in mmo-champion. Overall it seems the Horde has more than Alliance.