There are russian bots spam farming elemental hyper spawn in Quaking Caverns at the Waking Shores. They have been there for many many weeks. Same bot characters with the default 815 achievements (boosted chars) fully automated monk-mage-druid-hunter-hunter comp. I have reported them multiple times for botting as I have been in the cave questing with my alts.
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They do care, enough to leave them alone and take the cash from the subscription’s.
You have to remember these bot’s would not be there if they did not have any customers to sell their gold/services to, there are a significant number ( I would say the majority) that buy from these bot’s
If you have never bought gold you are in the minority I think
Lets face it, you could train your gran up in a couple days to spot what a bot looks like and remove them in no time, but blizz got rid off all the GM’s and replaced it with a…bot? system…bot vs bot…hmmmm
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It’s obvious botters don’t care about getting their eventual ban, months later… Blizz should be going after the gold buyers instead, instill that fear from buying it.
But this is Blizzard, they got zero integrity. Those botters make Blizzard money, those botters make their money in-between the infrequent ban waves. Win-Win for both parties.
Meanwhile botters collapse the economy for materials, and are causing the sharding issues plaguing the servers for the past number of months where you just randomly change phase while you’re killing a rare or whatever…
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I got an ingame mail the other day about action being taken on a report, and all I’ve reported has been bot farmers and bot spammers in Services channel. Not enough is being done, but it’s not nothing.
One unique report per account is sufficient for an investigation, if guilty they will be earmarked for a future banwave. Sadly enough they do not take immediate action.
They usually use fraudulent credit cards which they charge back removing Blizzard’s income and on top of incurring merchant costs for each transaction and/or hacked/stolen accounts.
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If removing bots is too much of a hassle they could take action against players…the real reason bots are here
Business’s don’t last very long when their customers are getting banned.
Not sure how difficult it would be to determine who is buying gold, some will be blatantly obvious.
I just genuinely believe they can do a lot more but choose not too for financial reasons, they would loose the players that want to buy things from gold sellers and they would loose the gold sellers accounts too. No business would do that to themselves so they have resigned to making half hear-ted ban waves to appease the minority of players that don’t buy gold.
I vaguely remember talking to GM’s a couple times in vanilla and action being taken was very fast, good ol days.
I am a little surprised Blizz has not just giving up the pretense of trying and just sell everything in game themselves, full blown monetization.
Don’t want to raid but want best items? we have just thing thing follow me! $$$$$$$
would you guys stop playing if you could buy raid items in blizz shop? Most people are aware you can buy fully geared/ranked characters from many sources so would it make any difference if Blizz just sold them?
That item you lost 8 weeks in a row is only $10 hmmmm …would you?
Haven’t blizzard recently done a ban wave? I’m pretty sure I’ve read that somewhere.
I think so too.
Edit : found it . https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1bqaxwl/massive_banwaves_hits_botters/
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More bots = more money.
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Almost 2 million (1.878.000) Zaralek Glowspores on the Action House (going for 10g 70 each), farmed by mostly bots in Zaralek Caverns, because you mostly don’t see more than a handful of players there from time to time. That’s a lot of ingame gold.
All right, so let’s just go over the basics here, just because there are some people who are, uninformed as to how the band system goes, what they do to investigate bots, an all that jazz in between.
So, what happens here is that Blizzard will go ahead and have a threshold. And that threshold could be 1000 accounts or 2000 accounts before a ban wave is started. They do it like this to make the people who make these bot programmes, spend more time trying to figure out what it was that got that detected in the first place.
If they can have a longer period where there’s no bots in the game, great. But at the end of the day, botting will be an ongoing problem in the MMO industry. Until somehow, they make government body make botting and cheating illegal by law.
Also, let’s not forget, the creator of this thread is saying that is “Russian” bots. There are bots from every corner of the world that do this. It’s not just one country. You have countries like China, Turkey, Iran, places in Germany, the UK, Netherlands and all over the place that do this because there’s money to be made. Because people are stupid enough to spend money on boosting services and buying gold at a cheaper rate than what they can get from the WoW token.
The thing is, I’m not defending Blizzard. I wish it was faster, I wish we never had bots in the game because there is the constant nuisance. But people need to take the in-game mails about actions being taken with a huge grain of salt. The only actions are that, that bot account has been added to a list. They have not been banned “yet”.
And lastly, the conspiracy theory that Blizzard makes money from the bot accounts to kind of justify the bots not being banned. As much as I would like to agree with this theory, I really don’t believe it would be legally viable or legally in their best interest to allow such actions to be taken.
Oh, and before I forget as well, let’s not forget that a good chunk of bots in this game, are players who just want to basically use a secondary account to bot to their hearts content, to avoid them having to farm themselves. And yes, they’re probably paying with the same credit card that they used to pay for their main account, but they don’t care because Blizzards doesn’t ban credit cards/paypal for people using bots, especially if that banking information is legit.
Thor explains it in a way I never could. The jist is, a time-frame of 3-6 months allows for chargebacks if you use a service like Paypal. So a lot of botters will request a charge back when banned, crippling the botting software sellers.
It also makes it harder to pinpoint what gave the bot away if you don’t let them have small samples (samples being scrubs who got caught botting)
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if u take a glimps online, lvl 70 boost + 30 day gametime goes for a bout 25 euros.
if they let those people bot for more then a month, the money is allready returned 10 x.
so it stays profitable. the account is made to be burned, and another one is made in 10 min and it starts all over.
The banwaves are to far apart, saying this is to make sure the bot creators have a harder time to get knowledge about the detection method is just bs.
each account makes em money, regardless how made. some get a chargeback due to fraudulent methods, but most just make em money.
and the detection? really, you dont need much of a detection system if u stand on a node for 10 min and watch 50 bots do the same mining , spot on , jump up and spurt away method.
a 6 yr old could write something to flag that at least regardless of player reports.
no one mining or herbing lands 100 % spot on on every node, no one.
same crap is going on since vanilla wow. we all remember the 100 bot train going non stop for 3 months.
it makes em money, wouldnt suprise me one bit if they sell they confiscated account gold on one way or the other somewhere. money is money.
blizzard doesnt care, thats what they show me. A banwave once every 3 or 6 months is just allowing it to continue.
they also don’t care about boosters in rbg dropping mmr by losing intentionally, sitting on lower mmr while being 2500+ experienced and boosting people for real money. To be honest it becomes more obvious and frustrating that blizz doesn’t even have a decent ToS team. And they don’t have such team because it’s not profitable to spend money for additional workers compared to ignoring such rule breakers behaviour
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