hahaha this line again xD still doesn’t mean anything bro
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Then you admit you don’t know the context yourself? You literally defeat your own argument and by the way, I know the context because her and the others responded to the context of it - and yes actually a lot of it is up on wayback machine. So, if you believe all of her tweets were just. Not racist, not hateful… Repost them here would you? I bet you won’t. Not even links to her tweets, just type up what she said and post it here and see what happens to your post.
Telling me to shut up? Nah, not when there’s someone that’s being racist and sexist and their NPCs is removed with evidence when the others are removed WITHOUT evidence.
Plus, what context makes derogatory insults based upon skin tone and gender much better? Hint: it doesn’t.
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Well they do tell potential freelancers and workers about how little they care and trust them.
Wouldn’t touch any work related subjects from blizzard after this.
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I don’t know if there was evidence or not, I didn’t read all of it and it’s been a while. Then again I don’t think comparing the two is a totally fair comparison. Josh never spoke about the situation as far as I am aware and has made no effort to counter any claims made (afaik), whereas here we have an actual court case.
I think there wasn’t even a lawsuit. The investigation was dropped because of lack of evidence.
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Notice how easy it is to derail a thread. You just mention one name and people’s Pavlovian responses kick in. Their rehearsed rhetoric kicks in. They can’t help themselves. You are completely controlled by conditioned responses. It’s all rhetoric.
It’s just hilarious how I did call this out in the beginning of my post and people still engaged. This is how strongly you’re all controlled by emotions. It’s insane how people basically can’t control themselves, but expect everyone else to be constantly in full control. It’s also hypocritical, but eeh.
take a look in the mirror bro
The controversial part is that they replaced the old voiceovers, which is not something that’s usually done (it’s not like they bothered replacing Yesera’s cata voice when she got a new one in legion).
But then again they probably can’t really go back on that as they most likely have a contract with the new guy and can’t cancel it with no good reason.
I agree that any person who’s losing sleep over this is more than welcome to stop paying Blizzard and quit, I won’t judge.
Well, it’s neither the first nor the last time they change some old content. The last one I remember was the Garrosh calling Sylvanas the b word.
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I always found this attitude of which hunting against people based on what the public has decided as guilty because of the case of Rocío Wanninkhof in my country 20 years ago. A young girl was found dead and soon there was an investigation, before the investigation ends the media already chosen that a woman named Dolores Vazquez, all the public was against her, everyone believes she was the murdered thanks to national media and even the judicial system succumbed and that and errors on the investigation led to that woman being convicted. The problem? She wasn’t the murder, and we know that because the real murder killed another young girl years later and was in this second murder investigation when it was found he killed both girls. I believe that the second girl would have been alive today if the media didn’t make this witch hunt.
It was like in the movei Oxford Crimes, " The only perfect crime is the one which is solved with the wrong culprit", and it was the media and cancel culture the ones who made possible that perfect crime.
So before falling into the error that cancel culture is okay keep in mind but sometimes this guilty before being proven innocent does not only means an innocent could be declared guilty, it also means a guilty could go away freely because all the people is too busy hating the false criminal.
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Yeah you are really good at this kind of thing. Still, stop supporting double standarts if you want world to be a more fair and better place.
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Reality is actually simple. Each stunt they pull like this is a small cut. And each of them is adding a small bleed that eventually turn into blood pool.
I already unsubscribed for different reasons but things like this just adds more dissatisfaction towards company until I will be no longer interested in anything they do.
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It’s also a matter of the ‘cultural climate’ of the time. Obviously with the countless cases of allegations in this type of crime these days, many are quite happy to just assume guilt. Also the sheer quantity inevitibly leads to an extremely distasteful 'Well that’s close enough or it looks like it vaguely fits into that crime, so hang him.".
It reminds me of the case where a pediatrician had a brick thrown through their window by outraged locals. “Bring back the death penalty and protect our kids.”
There’s an undoubted hysteria that comes along in every ‘raising awareness’ thing. The point is there needs to be enough people with their heads firmly screwed on to manage things and not let them get out of control.
I don’t belive that “sacrificing a few innocent souls for the sake of the majority” is an acceptable or even required side-effect.
Gamer protests are the most anemic and pathetic thing in existence. We all rose against Battlefront 2, and that game still sold over 9 million copies in its first month. When gamers were “boycotting activision” over the HK drama, people were deleting their accounts and in short order, we started seeing the threads about “but how do I restore my blizzard account”. Yeah…
If gamers could protest, Bethesda would’ve gone defunct by now. But all it takes to distract gamers is a bit of carrot and a stick. Some sparkles. It’s not hard to trigger their preprogrammed responses and they just throw money at you.
Gamers are defined by consumption. They have integrated consumption into their identity. That’s why they can’t ever protest anything and why corporations don’t care about gamers. They care about shareholders and investors. Gamers refuse to face the reality that they’re at the bottom of the food chain. Hell, Microsoft’s entire plan is to run their gaming division at a loss for years in the future, hoping to secure greater market share, which they’ll use to get more investment money. Gamers are being denied even their buying power. Little by little.
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Not really. We “all” did not. We are not united.
But things like this and this case only is simply a small cut.
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For someone who likes to talk about their resume and future work, You sure sound like you don’t mind other people in your line of work losing that due to some words without conviction? Funny thing is if the same happend to you I would be sticking up for you, I guess it’s all good if it’s not happening to you?
All it takes is one false accusation of your character then you lose all that work you’ve done, If that doesn’t concern you then I really hope it doesn’t happen to you.
Now imagine some guy coming into the thread about you where people where sticking up for you like me. “Technially Brigante wasn’t employed by any companies at the time!” Like it matters? You’re the one that’s really missing the point here, I find it kind of weird considering this whole attitude puts people like you in danger.
Classic case of “it’s fine if it’s not me”
You’re talking from a bias point of view too, You clearly expressing you want future work with Blizzard. You enjoy your voice acting for them and seek future employment, I don’t trust you not to speak out of turn in situations like this that conflicts your line of work with Blizzard. Your posts are starting to make more sense now. Supporting throwing a fellow voice actor under the bus because it isn’t you?
The difference here though is that there is no muddying of criminal waters. People are confusing the civil and the criminal.
In this case we have VA, whom has accusations. No legal sanctions have been placed upon him at all. On the legal front he has been cleared.
However there have been civil consequences which have been instigated by private individuals whom are guided not by the Rule of Law on the criminal case, but a great many potential things such as: hearsay, their own biases, cognitive dissonance, reason, common sense, hysteria, panic etc etc.
Now, where people say stuff like “it’s like hanging a guy because it roughly fits” no, it’s not. Hanging was a criminal penalty in cases where it was applied, and that isn’t what is happening here. The guy has not been legally punished by mere fact of accusation.
What people are railing against here, is the freedom of people to “make up their own minds as to states of affairs” in a way they see as fit and behave accordingly.
This is where I get very confused, because in these threads I see a lot of people whom have been present in various other threads, and are usually very quick to trot out the “FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!” lines and whatnot, and essentially what they’re angry about in this case, is people having the freedom to follow their own consciences. They’re literally getting mad about people being free to do stuff, simply because they disagree with how they’re using that freedom.
Freedom doesn’t mean “free to do exactly X”, it means “freedom to do X, or not.” in this case it entails the freedom for people to, yes, be whipped up into frenzy over Twitter, follow biases, make mistakes, be ignorant, jump to conclusions and all that. You cannot stop people doing that without violating their freedom and you cannot punish them for using their freedom like that.
What you can punish (and you can, currently, in the system I have outlined above) is where they’re using their freedom to infringe upon yours. Ie they are defaming your name, or being unfair to you vis a vis employment rights. You have means to redress this, but only after it is done (or you’re almost certain it will be done).
But what you cannot do is stop people being pig-headed and stupid and following hearsay, not without curbing freedoms. So if anyone is going to argue along those lines, they have to immediatley drop all notion of “fighting the fight” for freedom etc, because what they’d actually be doing is stomping all over other people’s freedom and rights of expression simply because they think “they’re not using it properly” and that is not how it works unless said use of freedom infringes someone else’s rights/freedom.
And because you don’t actually infringe that until the thing is said (such as the inference/defaming comment) and weighed to be an infringement, you cannot proactively stop people expressing such things without risking huge impositions on people’s liberty de facto, which I will never ever support, and neither should anyone else, particular those who may or may not have in the past complained about stuff like “cancel culture” because preventing people being able to say stuff simply because it’s mistaken, in error or fuelled by faulty reasoning is pretty much the same thought process is it not? It’s basically saying “you can’t do X because we don’t agree with this thing you did/said/do”.
So yeah, I see a lot of cognitive dissonance flying in these threads. People who on one hand would defend freedom to the last breath when it concerns X, but on the other hand they would advocate to strip someone else of their freedom to do stuff merely because it doesn’t align with X, they are not interested in liberty in the slightest, they are interested only in confirmation and agreement of their own positions and securing the means for them to dominate under the illusion of it being “freely done” but their expression belies that ultimately they don’t appear to believe in liberty as a principle at all, it is conditional for them.
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I think we need to move further, i think Holywood must reshoot Se7en cuz Kevin Spacey in it.
E R A S E E V E R Y T H I N G
Also erase both Amber Heard and Johnny Depp since judges still not given guilty verdict to any of them
So nice to live in Brave New World! One day you exist, next day you deleted from everywhere and forgotten. Progress in a nutshell.
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Didn’t it turn out Johnny was the one being abused? Haven’t looked much into it myself but just from what I heard. Meanwhile he is seemingly not being casted for anything anymore and she is still getting big roles.
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