Blizzard should delay SL

Nah it won’t be

Convenants are fun gameplay wise. Balance is the concern. The concept alot could get behind. It’s just making it work in reality is the problem

It is although actually fun to play from a gameplay only standpoint

Even preach and those super against it are saying the gameplay itself is fun, even with its flaws it’s leaps above BFAs systems.

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Just put on this nice, warm strap-jacket
We even prepared a compfy padded room for you

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Umm I can actually show you videos where every streamer has said it.

The problem is the balancing and impact this will have on players.

Not the gameplay itself.

It simply just follows a huge But.

It’s fun in the gameplay, as in the solo content, it’s however going to be torn apart by meta and going to fail at what they’re trying to achieve, there is no possible to way to balance that may things simultaniously. Espically when Soulbinds are susposed to be 1 thing for 36 speccs.

It’s just annoying as hell, I don’t get why they had to make it as complex as it is tbh.

Soulbinds didn’t need to be there. They actually made the problem 10x wide. If this was just convenant abilities, legendaries and conduits. With legendaries and conduits shared among all. It’d be a 1000 times easier.

People’s problem is the fact there’s player power tied to it, not the convenants themselves

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Sadly SL needs to come out ASAP in order for the open Gamma testing to begin.

Until then, the dev team will keep patting itself on the back while sniffing their own gasses in their echo gas chamber

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They must reliese theyre gonna spend the first 2 months being screeched at over this player power by now :rofl::rofl:

They could get this 99% balanced and the playerbase is too angry at this point to accept it lol

Don’t mean this bad against the playerbase or saying blizzards right. But regardless at this point the playerbase is gonna fight it.

Because it is not just unbalanced, but plain annoying.

“Oh great hero, you saved us from the brink but if you do not make an exclusive contract with us, you are a traitor.”

Well… people are complaining about balance mostly cause you can’t change covenants when you want.
For me this is equally as annoying… i won’t be able to experiment with anything, same with the stupid 1 week cd on conduits. :confused:

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No I ment the part where your partaking in the convenant is fun, the locking to a convenant is the irritating part. But the current argument is how imbalanced it is :frowning:

And yeah conduits are just wtf

The campaign is fun however. Like the quests and some stuff like build a abomination for necrolords is fun

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Conduits are also very unbalanced between classes.
Warrior have conduits that push their dps immensely, ret on the other hand is very low and rng based…

The ret ones were buffed to be more powerful in a recent update. I didn’t compare them to how the warr ones are… haven’t checked those up.
But they seem more worthwhile now.

I think that’s fine aslong as the base classes are balanced to equalise that. Conduits are the simple fix

The ontake of

Convenant abilities + convenant signiture spells + Soulbinds + legendaries + conduits balancing however is ridiculous :rofl:

All I can say is blizzard know how to make their lives hard

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But still rng based and none that benefit divine storm…
Again, seems not very thought through.

Open beta officially open at 27 october, so you can eneter and start to help them fix tones of bugs. If you think that if they delay SL them will polish WoW untill he will shine you totally wrong.
Plus players won’t pay subs/boosts and play the game untill waiting SL tho. They just quit and back when SL come.

Yeah, besides Truth’s Wake benefiting Wake of Ashes for AOE… there are only single target ones.
Looking at the warr ones, they don’t have much into aoe attacks too, so maybe Blizz mainly wants ST to be buffed through conduits, and maybe a few for aoe.

Exactly and they refuse to see the very obvious s**t storm that’s coming, just like they did with Azerite, until eventually 18 months down the line they finally admit they were wrong and messed it up.

They been messing up the past 2 x-pacs by being stubborn and trying to reinvent the wheel for no reason and after working on them for 2 years and never fully fixing them… they simply scrap them.

Just fix and improve what’s already in the game, things that work, theres no need at all for these contrived over complicated and inherently unbalanced buggy systems.

delay it and the meantime let us have prepatch soon.

In my opinion they shouldn’t.

It’s solid enough where it counts.
The rest can be tweaked as we go, if need be.

Not really the same though. Azerite was hands down wonky and had several bad ideas in it.
Covenants have good ideas in them, but the succes of those ideas depends in some areas on Blizzard’s ability to balance things correctly.

So, if it doesn’t work out; it’s not because they were wrong, but because they failed at balancing correctly.

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And the dumb part is that it’s not even hard to fix and retain the RP aspect…

Step 1: Soulbinds are the ones we attain while we save their asses in the Shadowlands, they wouldn’t care what covenant we’re apart anyway.
Can be uncoupled and selected as a secondary talent tree like normally, since we share part of their power when we bind with them.

Step 2: Covenant abilities and Covenant Class Abilities are powers we attain while helping the covenants, makes no sense to lose them, exclusion can be seen as power overload, we can only use 1 of each category at the same time, but can be changed through a short visit at the sanctum of X covenant to re-make the connection.

Step 3: Just totally remove the cd of conduits, there are absolutely zero RP reasons to have them have a cooldown…

This whole… unraveling thread excuse that they made is totally bull :poop:

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But the people we soulbind WITH are very much part of a covenant. So that doesn’t make much sense; I think they would care.

You can’t visit a sanctum if you’re not part of that Covenant.
So that last part wouldn’t work. Maybe an npc in Oribos.

The cd isn’t there for RP reasons though. So your reasoning on this ‘step’ is faulty.

I think they have a better idea of how the different systems are connected than you do (not only the way WE see them, but also at the backend of the gaming engine systems). No offense.

I think someone who doesn’t+ and or even raid, you can’t understand the majority of the playerbase from your self-focused view.

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