I was shocked and horrified when I read this article. Apparently the stress caused by overtuned raids is causing real life outbursts of frustration between players which is even resulting in violence. For the sake of the community’s physical and mental well-being, I think it’s time to tone it down and stop tuning raids for the top 0.01% players in the world. Ion has gone psycho with the overtuning when even he himself isn’t good enough to complete the mythic raid based on his guild’s sad performance.
Aster RWF guild
During the recent race in Sepulcher of the First Ones, an argument began over Pantheon interrupts, with popular streamer and former MDI champion Yeluo getting into an argument after being called out for low damage, despite being high on the meters. The argument that ensued resulted in shouting profanities and his removal from the team.
After an argument regarding missed interrupts, one of the team’s Warriors became violent, smashing tables and throwing things around the venue.
Two players cursed and threatened each other after arguing over how to handle a mechanic, and although [the clip is in Chinese], we can hear things being smashed before the streams were muted.
Because Supreme is new to the team and came from a well recognized western guild, ShiGuang also made frequent snide comments toward him over any small mistake. This came to a head when ShiGuang again tried to talk down to him during Jailer progression, resulting in Supreme confronting ShiGuang in person, with one of the team managers standing between them to avoid IRL PvP.
If something that’s supposed to be a flagship activity is causing people to quit and even to violence, then there’s something wrong with either the activity itself or the way it’s organised.
It’s a game.
Tempers flare and altercations happen in many competitive sports, pressure environments and workplaces. I’m not saying its right, but you’re using this as a completely transparent agenda to link it to the raid tuning.
So… looking into this further more… We have a proffesional well known western streamer who joins a Chinese raiding guild. And this altercation happend
I still think allot about wow could be better and that certain posters would defend warcraft like their own mother.
That being said… Its more likely in this case the Chinese here kept an extra eye and higher expectation on this Western streamer and didn’t get what they where expecting of their newly added high profile westerner.
Not enough likes on this, so I’m quoting it so that more people see it.
The people who CHOOSE to participate in RWF are also likely to be highly competitive in nature. Highly competitive people are also more likely to get emotional in a competitive environment, and thus more likely to get frustrated and angry, and lash out when they feel that they are (at risk of) losing.
The difference between regular WoW players and members of RWF teams is like the difference between friends who kick a ball round the park at weekends and world class footballers. They’re intensely competitive people in a highly pressured environment.
There is no basis for jumping from “overtuned raids” to “physical violence”.
Even to an outsider like me, it i clear that raiding is not in a good place at the moment, for all the reasons we see talked about here regularly.
And the “guns and armour” race between the devs and the top raiders has gotten ridiculously out of control. And the gap between the top raiders and the general playerbase has become unfathomable to most of us.
I will stipulate all that.
It is still not sufficient to say that this specific raid tuning caused … well, I don’t see any actual violemce, anyway.
People, especially young people, especially young men, under very high pressure to compete and achieve, lose their tempers regularly, in all sports, when they feel under too much pressure/threat - and way outside of sports. Road rage, anyone?
This was an incident in a professional team, where people no doubt saw their money and their careers on the line. Unseemly, yes. Could have happened in any team sport - football, rugby, whatever. Anywhere people feel that a) their position/reputation/standing is under threat because of performance and b) other people’s performance is hampering theirs.
It could equally have happened if the raid was easier. Remember, these people are not competing against the raid; they’re competing against other teams. It wasn’t about them being unable to down a boss; it was about downing the boss faster than another team.
mythic raiders have been smug for years belliteling casual players - not its hteir time to bite to bullet and hear 
