Blizzards Needs to Change Vote Banning

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I have noticed a significant increase in people votekicking other just because they don’t play like that want or because they lack a certain buff.

The kick function itself is just being abused constantly and I dont even wanna go play dungeons anymore since there is a good chance some douchebag will give me a 30min timeout after i already went inside a dungeon for 10 minutes.

Other people just seem to press yes without any clue on why or whats going on. They just press yes to anything as long as it is not them. Either emove votekicking outright or change it to stop getting abused.

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Never happens to me, and i’ve run hundreds and hundreds of dungeons during cataclysm. If you get kicked 1 time it’s bad luck but if you get kicked on a regular basis, you are the problem.

The current system is perfect imo, except for the fact that you have to wait 2 minutes before kicking someone (cause there are so many rude people who think it’s ok to be afk when a dungeon starts)

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Change it to what, though?

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I constantly see it happen to others, not even me. Though most kicks I get are for complaining that a kick was unjustified. I don’t mean people that go AFK i mean people who die and forget to put on the dungen buff getting kicked, people that die to mechanic first try getting kicked. At least 2 kicks per day minimum.

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Make it all 4 Votes have to be yes or take it away entirely. Or remove the 30min penalty for getting kicked.

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This one is acceptable to me, though it won’t stop 4man premades trolling.

Can’t, that means AFKers completely ruin runs. One person shouldn’t have the power to completely block 4 others from continuing.

This was added to stop people from trolling. People used to get certain dungeons (Violet Hold and Oculus) and would demand that people kick them and would AFK until they got kicked.

The system is bad because the players ruined it.

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Works as intended, got “the patient” achievement on few chars and didnt rly saw people got kicked for no reason.

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Some morons kicked me (dps) and the Tank! for nothing!

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Blizzard should make voting to kick cost something. If you vote to kick someone you would get 20 minutes deserter like debuff as well after dungeon ends (stacks 3 times). After 3rd vote kick per dungeon you will be kicked out as well.

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“It hasn’t happened to me yet, so it’s not a problem” lol.

I see it happen ALL THE TIME, and not to me. And yeah, most people press “Yes”. Just the other day some poor hunter in my group nearly got kicked for having aspect on once towards the end of a leveling dungeon. No one even asked them to turn it off before trying to kick them.

People are selfish and impatient, so the vote kick should be changed. In Overwatch you get kicked after some time of inactivity, so it could be the same here. No movement or abilities used by the player in the last minute or so = they’re now kickable.

Furthermore, what is the actual point of the deserter debuff? Getting kicked is punishment enough. I’d say either remove that entirely or only apply it after several kicks in a row.

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If u got kicked from dungeons more then twice “for no reason” then there is definetly reason. Saw tons of vote kicks and there allways was one.

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To be honest, the simple fact that you say you have to wait 2 min before kicking someone, makes me think that you’re one of the people that are actually the problem.

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So, what’s the problem ?

The fact that it doesn’t happen to you, and yet happens to other people, clearly shows that getting kicked depends on your behavior.

Dogs often get kicked, human players rarely get kicked. It’s a perfect system.

I witness many people getting kicked in dungeons, but 95% of them are dogs. Therefore why should i complain ? It is how it’s meant to be.

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Just leveled a character, constantly queued for dungeons, did the twilight grind, and during all that time I saw two unreasonable votes pop up, and got kicked myself once for bugging through the floor of the elevator in the underwater dungeon, whatever it’s called.

It’s not the problem some make it out to be. If you’re constantly getting kicked, the problem is likely you.

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Yeah but those reasons are childish at best and everytime, they could have just communicated the issue, which in 90% of cases does not happen. Also YES you can ABSOLUTLY get kicked 2,3 4,5 times for no real reason. Stop acting like ‘‘must be you’’ when fragile egos are a common thing.

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this dumb ‘‘never happened to me’’ attitude is really rotten.

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Make it all 5 votes to kick. KEKW

If you remove the 30min penalty, all people will just leave in Pandas from dungeon they don’t need for gear.

There no need to make any changes here. I had some situations, where we can’t kill the boss because of 3 low geared dps. What should i do? Make tries of boss in dungeon with randoms? Are you kidding? If you get kicked it’s you problem. We have system with 3/5 votes for kick, it’s 60% of people.

Most of simple decisions are made by 50%+1 in most of parliaments.

Simple majority (50% + 1 vote of the present Members of the European Parliament) is used for most ordinary decisions, such as adopting resolutions`

Just let the people decide if they want to go with you.

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we are just dont belive in “for no reason”

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Perhaps you should learn to read, I said it happened, and it happened to me, but the scale of the problem is not nearly what some make it out to be. Now, given your lacking reading comprehension, I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume that perhaps you deserved to be kicked.

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  1. Majority ≠ Fairness in Small Groups

“We have system with 3/5 votes for kick, it’s 60% of people.”

Yeah, and that’s exactly the problem. In a 5-player dungeon, 3 people can troll-kick 2 others, especially tanks or healers, just for not catering to their meta expectations. In this tiny group, “majority rules” becomes mob rule. This isn’t the EU Parliament, bro — it’s a party of 5 where every player’s time matters.

  1. Abuse Is Real, and It’s Getting Worse

“If you get kicked it’s your problem.”

Nah, it’s everyone’s problem. People are being kicked for not having meta buffs, playing off-meta specs, or even just for loot they might need. Players are being punished with a **30-minute deserter penalty after spending 10–15 minutes trying. That’s demoralizing and killing the queue experience.

You know what happens next? Healers and tanks stop queuing. Enjoy your 30-minute wait times.

  1. The “Just Let People Decide” Argument Is Lazy

“Just let the people decide if they want to go with you.”

You mean, “just let 3 randos decide to ruin someone’s time because they feel like it”? Nah. In a 5-man dungeon, you don’t get to treat people like disposable NPCs. If you want full control over your team, make your own group. Don’t abuse matchmaking.

  1. Kicking for Gear Is a Dumb Excuse

“What should I do? Make tries of boss in dungeon with randoms?”

Yes. That’s the point of matchmaking — cooperating with random people. You don’t kick someone for being undergeared when the whole point of the dungeon is to get gear. If you can’t carry or communicate, don’t pug. Simple.

Also, kicking low-geared DPS doesn’t make you a leader it makes you a loot goblin with a superiority complex.

  1. 5/5 Vote to Kick = Accountability
    If you want to kick someone, all 4 other players should agree. If even one person thinks the kick is unjustified, then it shouldn’t happen. That’s not “soft,” that’s fair. Especially when a wrongly kicked player loses time and gets a debuff for literally doing nothing wrong.
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