Blizzard's Transparency

Quoting from the official Blizzard page:

When you purchase the in-game pet by December 31, 2019 in the Blizzard Shop or the in-game shop, we’ll donate 100% of the purchase price** to be shared equally with Make-A-Wish and WE.

**Donation amount for in-game pet excludes chargebacks, refunds, and value added taxes (VAT) or other similar taxes paid with a maximum donation amount of USD $3 million from all sales of the Dottie in-game pet and plushie for charity.

I see that Blizzard must make profit from something, but are they getting so low to rip off charities? It is a 100% sure that the pet AND the plushie will make more than $3 million and all the rest will go to Blizzard’s pocket, while people will still think that they are donating for charity.

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I mean, 3m is better than nothing though?

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This was discussed at length yesterday. The reason behind the cap would appear to be tax laws in California.

Yesterday’s thread disappeared after it devolved into a cesspit of toxic sludge btw so take heed starting this topic again may not end well.

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People do just assume or was evidence provided?

Further to what Nefaryas mentioned it was also shown that the most Blizz have ever raised from one of these drives is $2.5 Mil so the chances of going over $3 Mil are slim.

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Yeah but it was 2.5M from the pet. Now we have the plushie as well that costs twice as much as the pet.

How do you know ots sure they will make mroe tha 3 mill? Thats a blind guess with no intelligence behind it.

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I’m sure there was knowledgeable people who gave that reasoning but the thread was over 300 posts long so I didn’t read it fully tbh. I would imagine that there is tax restrictions on charitable donations though so it is a pretty solid guess that that is the reason behind the cap.

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I mean, are -you- giving 3 million to charity? Are you a large corporate entity that actually has to pay money to organise the accountancy to make this tax free (Especially in the US, which is notoriously litigious about such things, their IRS is like the Mafia). In my line of work, I lose 10% of my earnings, so that a third party handles all that crap for me, and fills in my tax returns as a ‘theoretically’ Self Employed person. Blizzard will have to spend money, in order to be able to donate to Charity. It sucks, but that is how it works, It is the same with actual Charities themselves! I used to work as a character actor for a company that trained Charity workers going to ‘At Risk’ countries, and my boss was a guy who had done it all, ex-forces, worked for the UN, worked on Charity advisement.

You can’t just bung a million quid at a problem and make it go away. There are local restrictions on the amount of ‘free money’ a company can give to charities, before they have to actually invest and take some responsibility, at which point it is less a donation, than a corporate takeover.

Remember, Blizzard are talking about the Cap of the money received from people buying the charity mount. A Specific source. That does not, under US Taxation, prevent them, as a company, from making a charitable donation of say ‘The rest of the money received’ to said charities. Just means that for Tax purposes they can’t say 100% of the money goes to the Charity.

By the way, nor can any Charity on Earth. 100% does not go into the end purpose. It simply cannot. There are employment costs, vehicle hire, and yes, lets not ignore the fact when it comes to some countries, Bribes and Backhanders (Sad but true, it is an accepted fact that some Charities actually have to factor in Bribes into their accounting, in order to be able to operate in some areas).

To be honest, it sounds like a Declaration of Tax issue, rather than an act of Malevolence. Plenty of other companies do the same, yet give the full whack to the Charity, I’d strongly imagine Blizz do the same, they just can’t declare it without being punished under state Law.

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There is text explaining that they will give max 3mil. so why some people are mad :sweat_smile:

Learn to read and decide if you want to support or not. Its not like Blizzard is the only possibility to support people with money and its not like you are doing it for free - there is a fancy pet.

I would understand being mad about them stealing money without any information :sweat_smile:

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I’m not American so I cannot say that I know how taxation works in each state, but it is strange to see that enormous companies like Amazon can donate millions, while there is a 3M cap on Blizzard.

Because the donating text is the first thing you see when you go to the page, but they tried to hide the 3M part as much as they could.

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Not available to the EU though, effectively nuking a large percentage of the sales they could have made

It’s right under the buy button, and even before all the other things they’ve listed.

They did a poor job hiding it if that’s what they were trying to do. :slight_smile:

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They really didn’t. It’s right up there for you to read

Yeah well amazon and tax are erm… the less said the better eh?? :wink: :wink: not the most ethical company to hold anyone up against are they?

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Sure it is under the buy button in a smaller font. Just a random question. Can you tell me spontaneously what is the written text under the Feline Familiar? Cos I can’t. And 99% couldn’t as well, because noone reads it.

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Like the text that says:

  • Requires World of Warcraft
  • Not Available in WoW Classic
  • VAT included
  • System Requirements
  • Product Details

Nothing unusual about the text size at all, to be honest.

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But really, your social justice warrioring would be of better use fighting for the rights of the serf…sorry, workers in Amazon warehouses.

Amazon big ticket donations are afaik just a vehicle with which the Bezos name gets associated with whatever institution they’re financing, in other words, Bezos is donating for tax deductions and because he wants to see his name everywhere.

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I have just looked at the shpo on my phone and the bit about the maximum donation being $3 million is in the same paragraph, and same font, as the rest of the bumf about between now and 31 December etc.

It is the same on the website too:

  • Through Dec 31, 2019, Blizzard® Entertainment will donate 100% of the purchase price to be shared equally with Make-A-Wish and WE.org, less any chargebacks, refunds and Value Added Taxes (VAT) or other similar taxes paid with a maximum donation amount of USD $3 million from all sales of the Dottie in-game pet and plushie for charity.

If you want to donate stop taking shortcuts and donate to the charity itself.

If you want an excuse to buy a pet then just buy it.

Ethics and businesses don’t really go hand in hand. Especially companies listed on the stock market have other priorities than being morally correct.

Is it a nice gesture? I don’t know. If it’s done just for PR, then No. If they genuinely wanted to help, there are other ways, such as donating directly without having this extra pet created.

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