Im a blood dk, pushing 19-20 keys. But on higher keys, we are barley viable, we also dont bring half the dps prot warrior/prot paladins bring. (the dps is not the issue imo, the ammount of dmg taken and mitigation is the real issue here for blood dks)
Every tank agrees, that blood dks are barley viable on higher keys, and struggle twice as much as the other tanks. This is further proven by the fact that you wont see many blood dks on higher keys compared to paladin and warriors. While i know druids and Dhs tanks have been suffering since start of BFA, rumours has it that they will be very strong and viable tanks in 8.3. But for the love of god, what are you guys doing about blood dks? Not only was necrotic made to counter blood DK, it was then changed to physical, making AMS useless, then blood dk got a heavy nerf in 8.1. This dosent seem to be reverted in 8.3 either.
A lot of other tank classes and blood dk agree that blood dk suffer from its weakness and nerfs, but blizz seems to not really recognize this issue.
Soruce to necrotic was made to counter blood DK: https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/7780-Developer-Q-A-with-Ion-Hazzikostas-Battle-for-Azeroth
PS. Before anyone makes any hastey comments, i dont say nerf any other tank, and im actually happy that more classes can tank, im simply saying tank balancing in BFA is in a very poor state atm.
Well true although you are fine because on certain weeks you should be fine because every class in this game can deal really well with certain affixes maybe this wasnāt your week so itās advisable to have many alts so you can deal with certain affixes for that week I know you want dks to be viable everywhere but it just canāt be done atm so donāt despair you will have your chance to shine honestly sorry this isnāt much but you will get there donāt worry.
I do get your point mate, but this rule dont apply for prot pala/prot warriors. Sure some weeks should be more punishing than others, but this should then apply to all tanks.
Youāre complaining because you canāt deal with certain high key affixes, while multiple tank specs are almost useless on low key affixes.
Count your blessings.
Again read my whole post. I was very clear with that DH and druids have been struggling, but is this my or blood dk fault or the devs fault? Instead of suggesting that they should rebelance all tanks across the border, your mentality is ādeal with it, we suffer so now you sufferā and as far as i can see, your a warrior, the strongest tank in the game.
Appreciate your comment, but next time try respond with something more constructive intsead. This dosent bring anything to the table or the discussion.
And lets be honest, its not certain affixes, we take the most dmg of all the tanks (cus of the healing mechanic, take dmg, heal it up) but even fortified weeks punish blood dk. Watch prot warriors or pala, they barley take any dmg regardless of affixes (bursting, explosive etc affects evryone so i dont count affixes like that in) How can you actually defend this?
Id be interested in seeing your main and what the highest key u done is.
Have you considered that possibility that no one is at fault? The affix was designed to defeat your tankās basic premise, itās working as it was designed to.
No, my mentality is stop complaining, count your blessings that youāre a viable tank spec and wait for the next weekās affixes.
Iām also 112. Not going to be doing much there.
It wasnāt suppose to be constructive, it was suppose to humourous and pointless to bait ālikesā for relevant humour.
And? Youāre complaining because of how the specās core mechanic works, would you prefer to use a shield and remove what makes BDK different?
No, fortified weeks punish everyone.
Iāve seen tanks get wrecked by grievous many times, regardless.
Because I like flavour in my classes and having each with strengths and weaknesses, not all being the same boring tank.
+7, I play casually with my friends. Mainly as my CTS limits my time playing and my skill.
But I do not care as I do it for fun, nothing more. https://raider.io/characters/eu/aggramar/Wraknar
Yes, itās almost like I have opinions on matters and an ability to post those opinions.
Funny how that works isnāt it? Yet, I would hazard a guess that youāre one of those who say
āYou donāt do _, so you are not entitled to any comment or criticism about _ā
Am I close?
not to be rude mate, but unless you have done high keys you dont know how they scale, and this also goes for affixes. To quote from one of the MDI casters: "Dungeons scale exponentially, meaning the difficulty from a 15 to 16 is greater than that from a 10 to an 11. "
He also goes saying: āThere realistically is no reason that Tyrannical and Fortified should exist, especially since the dungeons scale with dungeon level.ā
I suggest you read the whole post as he have many good and valid points. I really dont get why ppl defend something they have very little knowledge with. Your doing 7, im doing 19 and 20s. Its a huge gap and scaling after 15 an higher is not the same as lets say scaling from a 11 to a 12.
This is also where classes show their weakness and lag behinde.
Part of the problem is how affixes are designed, with trash mechanics in BFA. The other part is how classes are designed in BFA, with very poor balancing, this poor balancing affects tanks, healers and dps, not just tanks. Which sloot (also an MDI caster) have said, JB (Method EU healer) confirmed the same.
yeah I did quit pushing high keys for the same reason.
there were few issues but BDK being trash at higher keys is the main one.
I pugged all my keys, at 18 i hit the wall, too much time requirement to even start the key, and then tooons of issues inside the key, and all that for 0 rewards just makes it not worthy for me.
What are you expecting here? Theres always ebbs and flows in balance. Theres also DKās that have completed 25ās on time. That seems pretty viable to me.
DK were king of the hill forever, I have zero issue with you having to struggle a little for a while.
Blood dk had/has their golden period. After 15+ if any tank spec struggle - I donāt think blizz will try to focus on it. So less people doing 15+ keys. There was era only blood dk was viable tank in high keys. Now let other tank enjoy it while they can.
Well i tend to suffer in high keys too, that why i kinda quit monk for now and play a rdruud. Dont forget last season you were the M+ king. As i was before(when i didnt play bfa) So i guess others need to take their fare share after us right?
Thank god i give 0 about yor opinion. And this is comming from a pala tank. Ironic. Also mate do you srsly have nothing else to do than put your name on every post made on this forum? One have to struggle to find a post you have not commented on, and their all the same, defending something not even worth doing so.
But when blizz ākilled the funā for you that was worth ranting over
When did i say other tanks should not have their time? This might sound hard for you guys to belive, but there are ways to make all tanks viable instead of having 1 or 2 classes viable.
I honestly never understood the hate for blood dks.
Just cus blizz cant balance something, why sould the players get punished for it?
Gotta love the rambos here defending everything blizz throws at them.
You always have to comment on me and not what I say. Stay salty. Also, Iām not a pala tank, Iām a mistweaver monk. I couldnāt give a monkies what you think of my opinion, its a public forum, last I checked I donāt need your permission to give it and just because you made a thread it doesnāt give you honorary ownership or mod rights.
Finally, google āviableā, Iām not sure you understand what it means. If a DK can complete a 25 on time, is that considered āviableā? Or does viable only mean āI was OP in Legion and Iām not anymore waaaaaa!ā. Because thats what Iām seeing here.
Since you removed your post Iāll be happy to answer cause I had the time to see what you wrote.
How does Deja know whats viable? Well, you two have the same score so Iām guessing the same way youāre whining about class balance when s1 was just blood dks
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