Blood Elves and the Alliance

It has been a only a short while since Lor’themar Theron was asked to join the Alliance. However, even more recently, Sylvanas fought the Night Elves in Dark Shore, and ended the War of the Thorns most brutally by burning down Teldrassil. Combine this with the visible of effects of the purified Sunwell, and there is a good possibility that the Blood Elves will reconsider joining the Alliance.

The Alliance & the Blood Elves.

I will not focus on everything from before the launch of World of Warcraft, so not about the Second or the Third War.

The Blood Elves joined the Horde during the Burning Crusade. While the decision was controversial, the Blood Elven leadership decided it was for the best, especially after the Kal’dorei refused to reconciliate and the help of the Forsaken in the Ghostlands. The Blood Elves proved to be a useful ally, being able to open the doors of Dalaran for the Horde by representing them in the city.

However, after the Burning Crusade, the Sunwell was purified with the help of the Prophet Velen, and the Blood Elves decided to enter a new direction: no longer would they drain the powers of the Naaru to have access to the Light, and no longer would they use Fel magic to keep themselves nourished. The roads were open for a more virtuous life, and Blood Elf society reached new heights.

When Garrosh Hellscream became Warchief, the Blood Elves fell victim to the Orc-superiority policy of Hellscream. They felt like the Horde was not able to protect them any longer, and constantly being used like a tool, Lor’themar Theron decided to open negotiations with the Alliance again, to join their cause. These ended abruptly after Jaina Proudmoore found out that the Sunreavers - a faction that was supposed to be as neutral as possible - had worked together with the Horde to steal the Divine Bell. She quite literally purged the City of Dalaran by removing the Sunreavers from the Kirin Tor, causing Lor’themar Theron to end the negotiations instantly.

It was only during Legion when the Blood Elves were asked to join the Alliance again by no one else but Alleria Windrunner, a war hero of Quel’thalas (of the past) who finally surfaced together with Turalyon. Lor’themar however, refused. It must be noted that this was not a formal proposal; Alleria was not given orders to ask the Blood Elves to rejoin the Alliance.

What has changed?

If we are to look why the Blood Elves might want to join the Alliance now, we need to look at what happened in order to determine why the Blood Elves are to reconsider their stance.

Most notably, the home of the Night Elves was burned down. While this might not be interesting at a first glance, there are a few things that make this interesting. First of all, the Blood Elves are still related to the Night Elves. But, considering the history of both Elf races, this should not matter a lot. The tree was also burned by a former Farstrider, which implies some sort of damage to the reputation of the military organisation, and Silvermoon itself.

However, more importantly is the fact that the Alliance decided to attack the Ruins of Lordaeron after the War of the Thorns. Sylvanas was unable to defend it, causing her to slowly lose control over the Eastern Kingdoms. While there are still battles and skirmishes going on (most notably the Battle for Stromgarde), there is no reason why the Blood Elves can still expect the Horde to protect them. They were unable to defend Lordaeron with the majority of the army present, and the Horde is slowly being pushed away from the Eastern Kingdoms. What if the Alliance decides to attack Quel’thalas? Surely, the Blood Elves will not stand a chance without the help of their allies! What guarantee do the Elves have that they will be able to defend their city?

Apart from that, what about the direction that the Horde has turned into? Instead of being the faction of the “underdogs”, seeking to survive in a hostile world, they have become the hostility quite clearly. The Blood Elves however, have evolved. Paladins, Priests, but also Mages now use the powers of a restored Sunwell, imbued with the Holy Light. It should be obvious that the restoration of the Sunwell has also changed the way of life of the Blood Elves, creating a more direct relationship with the Light itself (as is clear from Lady Liadrin’s transformation during the Sunwell Plateau dialogue with Velen, for example, and her current lines during the Arathi Warfront), and moving away from their more Warlock-ish lifestyle. Not to mention that the Blood Elves will find reconciliation with the Draenei easier, since they purified the Sunwell in the first place and, like the Blood Elves, are users of the Holy Light as well.

At this point, they, of all Horde races, should realise that their goals do not align with the Horde’s. Instead of a faction that is able to support them, both ideologically and militarily, it has become a faction associated with things that the Blood Elves don’t want to be - a leader who is Undead, conflicting with the ideals of the Light, just to name an example.

And that all has changed. The Horde is perverted, being only a shade of what they used to be. For the Blood Elves, nothing good will come out of supporting them.

And apart from these arguments, there are others to mention too. First and foremost, the Blood Elves have never really been a ‘part’ of the Horde. The only thing that made them a Horde race in the first place was their fall from grace when they decided to use fel magic to sustain their addiction. Apart from that, the Blood Elves are not barbaric and sometimes savage like the other Horde races (apart from the Nightborne, and maybe the future Zandalari) but live in a proper city, and live a modern life not matched by any other Horde races.

By becoming a member of the Alliance, the Blood Elves will gain a more strategical position in the Eastern Kingdoms, and can help in ensuring a safe world for the people located there. In turn, the Alliance can protect them from the Horde when necessary. It is not match made in the Light itself, but it surely is a better allegiance than their pledge of loyalty to the Horde. It has been a only a short while since Lor’themar Theron was asked to join the Alliance. However, even more recently, Sylvanas fought the Night Elves in Dark Shore, and ended the War of the Thorns most brutally by burning down Teldrassil. Combine this with the visible of effects of the purified Sunwell, and there is a good possibility that the Blood Elves will reconsider joining the Alliance.

The Alliance & the Blood Elves.

I will not focus on everything from before the launch of World of Warcraft, so not about the Second or the Third War.

The Blood Elves joined the Horde during the Burning Crusade. While the decision was controversial, the Blood Elven leadership decided it was for the best, especially after the Kal’dorei refused to reconciliate and the help of the Forsaken in the Ghostlands. The Blood Elves proved to be a useful ally, being able to open the doors of Dalaran for the Horde by representing them in the city.

However, after the Burning Crusade, the Sunwell was purified with the help of the Prophet Velen, and the Blood Elves decided to enter a new direction: no longer would they drain the powers of the Naaru to have access to the Light, and no longer would they use Fel magic to keep themselves nourished. The roads were open for a more virtuous life, and Blood Elf society reached new heights.

When Garrosh Hellscream became Warchief, the Blood Elves fell victim to the Orc-superiority policy of Hellscream. They felt like the Horde was not able to protect them any longer, and constantly being used like a tool, Lor’themar Theron decided to open negotiations with the Alliance again, to join their cause. These ended abruptly after Jaina Proudmoore found out that the Sunreavers - a faction that was supposed to be as neutral as possible - had worked together with the Horde to steal the Divine Bell. She quite literally purged the City of Dalaran by removing the Sunreavers from the Kirin Tor, causing Lor’themar Theron to end the negotiations instantly.

It was only during Legion when the Blood Elves were asked to join the Alliance again by no one else but Alleria Windrunner, a war hero of Quel’thalas (of the past) who finally surfaced together with Turalyon. Lor’themar however, refused. It must be noted that this was not a formal proposal; Alleria was not given orders to ask the Blood Elves to rejoin the Alliance.

What has changed?

If we are to look why the Blood Elves might want to join the Alliance now, we need to look at what happened in order to determine why the Blood Elves are to reconsider their stance.

Most notably, the home of the Night Elves was burned down. While this might not be interesting at a first glance, there are a few things that make this interesting. First of all, the Blood Elves are still related to the Night Elves. But, considering the history of both Elf races, this should not matter a lot. The tree was also burned by a former Farstrider, which implies some sort of damage to the reputation of the military organisation, and Silvermoon itself.

However, more importantly is the fact that the Alliance decided to attack the Ruins of Lordaeron after the War of the Thorns. Sylvanas was unable to defend it, causing her to slowly lose control over the Eastern Kingdoms. While there are still battles and skirmishes going on (most notably the Battle for Stromgarde), there is no reason why the Blood Elves can still expect the Horde to protect them. They were unable to defend Lordaeron with the majority of the army present, and the Horde is slowly being pushed away from the Eastern Kingdoms. What if the Alliance decides to attack Quel’thalas? Surely, the Blood Elves will not stand a chance without the help of their allies! What guarantee do the Elves have that they will be able to defend their city?

Apart from that, what about the direction that the Horde has turned into? Instead of being the faction of the “underdogs”, seeking to survive in a hostile world, they have become the hostility quite clearly. The Blood Elves however, have evolved. Paladins, Priests, but also Mages now use the powers of a restored Sunwell, imbued with the Holy Light. It should be obvious that the restoration of the Sunwell has also changed the way of life of the Blood Elves, creating a more direct relationship with the Light itself (as is clear from Lady Liadrin’s transformation during the Sunwell Plateau dialogue with Velen, for example, and her current lines during the Arathi Warfront), and moving away from their more Warlock-ish lifestyle. Not to mention that the Blood Elves will find reconciliation with the Draenei easier, since they purified the Sunwell in the first place and, like the Blood Elves, are users of the Holy Light as well.

At this point, they, of all Horde races, should realise that their goals do not align with the Horde’s. Instead of a faction that is able to support them, both ideologically and militarily, it has become a faction associated with things that the Blood Elves don’t want to be - a leader who is Undead, conflicting with the ideals of the Light, just to name an example.

And that all has changed. The Horde is perverted, being only a shade of what they used to be. For the Blood Elves, nothing good will come out of supporting them.

And apart from these arguments, there are others to mention too. First and foremost, the Blood Elves have never really been a ‘part’ of the Horde. The only thing that made them a Horde race in the first place was their fall from grace when they decided to use fel magic to sustain their addiction. Apart from that, the Blood Elves are not barbaric and sometimes savage like the other Horde races (apart from the Nightborne, and maybe the future Zandalari) but live in a proper city, and live a modern life not matched by any other Horde races.

By becoming a member of the Alliance, the Blood Elves will gain a more strategical position in the Eastern Kingdoms, and can help in ensuring a safe world for the people located there. In turn, the Alliance can protect them from the Horde when necessary. It is not match made in the Light itself, but it surely is a better allegiance than their pledge of loyalty to the Horde.

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You got one thing wrong in your post.
The Horde was not present at the siege of Lordaeron with a majority of forces.
The Alliance struck too fast for the Horde to proper prepare their defenses.

If anything it was a minority of the Horde Forces.

Next as you yourself pointed out Jaina pretty much made sure that the Regent Lord would never try negotiating anything with the Alliance ever again.
Especially after Stormwind let in Ren’dorei.

Now as for the Alliance assaulting Quel’thalas?
That do be very suicidal.
Not only is there a scourge army in the way.
But the Blood elves themselves are a force to be reckoned with now a day with Blood golems and so on.

Not to mention they’ve the shal’dorei on speed Dial.
Also not sure if you noticed but: Assault on Strom prevents directly for the High Kingdom to be assaulted by any major Force.

The Horde serves us well.

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Blizzard descriped that the Horde lost many thousand soldiers in WOT and even more Soldiers in SOL

Wrong, as one learns, the Horde has gotten everything that was not riveted and nailed to UC; they could prepare for it.

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And yet, they were able to gather an enormous army. Seeing that the Horde is able to invade Stormwind easily (as is shown from the scenario in which some prisoners are freed by the Horde) I highly doubt that the Horde only knew that the Alliance was coming to invade the Undercity when they came knocking on their gates.

Furthermore, Saurfang also pointed that they “come for us now” after the Burning of Teldrassil, and I am entirely sure that Sylvanas understood what was going to happen too.

Not to mention that Wowpedia lists that basically all races are present the Siege for Lordaeron, and unless they all sent a small elite army it’s easy to reason that the army present at the Undercity was quite large.

Jaina herself has changed significantly during this expansion already, and she has learned to cope with her anger and hatred. I am sure that she understands that the Blood Elves are a good addition to the Alliance.

As for the Blood Elves, we can only hope that they have forgiven Jaina, but nevertheless, I think that an angry Jaina won’t stop the Blood Elves from securing a good future; they have always been prudent and pragmatic.

A minor point, since only Rommath has problems with the Void Elves, and with his power reduced, Theron is easily able to overrule him.

This can all be bypassed if the Alliance starts their attacks from the western shores of Quel’thalas, they can avoid the Scourge and the Battle for Stromgarde easily. Also, a major part of the army of Silvermoon is probably fighting on other places because of the Battle for Azeroth, and I’m sure that the majority of the Alliance army can crush the Blood Elves, esp. with the help of the Void Elves. The Scourge was able to do so to, at the height of Quel’thalas.

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Never going to happen.

Blood Elves couldn’t care less about the Night Elves after that Ghostlands incident.

They hate the Alliance with a passion after MoP.

They would never allow the Ren’dorei anywhere near Quel’thalas.

The Sunwell and it’s shield protects Silvermoon from Assault. A ground assault is nigh impossible thanks to the scourge remnants harassing troops all the way through the plaguelnds.

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Maybe, but thankfully the Night Elves are doing a great job at abandoning the Alliance next patch by doing their own thing. Also, I am guessing that the whole attitude towards the Night Elves has changed after they saw their kin being burned alive.

Yes, yes, can we finally leave the Purge of Dalaran behind? Also, they don’t hate the Alliance for it, since Lor’themar clearly blames Jaina for it (as we can see from the corresponding quests).

Until now, we only have an indication that Rommath hates the Void Elves, but he hates anyone who doesn’t use the powers he uses. The Blood Elves also seem fine with an Undead High Elf as a leader, do you really think they cannot handle reconciliation with the Void Elves?

Like I already pointed out, the Alliance can also come by ship. Also, Quel’thalas was supposed to be impenetrable during the Third War, and yet it the kingdom was completely destroyed thanks to literally one High Elf who helped Arthas getting the Elven keys. Now, the Alliance has Umbric who obviously knows quite a lot about Quel’thalas.

If I were you, I wouldn’t trust those magical defenses.

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Haven’t seen any elf, Nightborne or Blood Elf, feeling sympathy for the Night Elves so far.

The Purge wasn’t just Jaina. Alliance forces directly participated in the form of the Silver Covenant and the Stormwind troops.

Lor’themar hates them too, as shown in the siege of Lordaeron. Furthermore, they’re a physical threat to the Sunwell. It’s not just about not liking them.

To get through the Sunwell’s defenses there would need to be a high-ranking traitor with knowledge about how the runestones work. Lor’themar is the only person still alive who is confirmed to know that info and he obviously won’t betray himself and his people.

This is of course forgetting about all the gameplay reasons why your stupid idea won’t come to pass.

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I heard Sylvanas said something similar to Arthas. Boy, did that end well.

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Ok, well why don’t you ask the common Blood Elf citizen and see if they have a lot of problems with it? They seemed ok to join the Horde, a questionable decision back then.

You know, I don’t think that the common Blood Elf is really involved in this… I think that, as long as they can continue their current lifestyle, they’re fine. And they can, when they join the Alliance.

Under the command of Jaina, even Varian disagreed with her actions.

Void Elves are not allowed to come near the Sunwell: problem solved.

He calls them ‘traitors’ and that’s all.

Ha, speaking of plot-armor. Anyway, Sylvanas thought that Quel’thalas could not be invaded either, but she changed her arrogant mind once Arthas slaughtered every single High Elf he could find and burned Silvermoon down.

Uh yeah I don’t really care about that.

It’s a great idea!

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This is the best thread ever.

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Well, it should’ve been impossible to set Teldrassil on fire with Catapults from the shores of Darkshore, but here we are.

I doubt Blizzard would’ve have no problem with allowing the Alliance to invade Silvermoon if they want…

Anyways, Lor’themar Theron is an arrogant and selfish leader. And he and the rest of his kin deserve to burn alongside their Horde ‘allies’ for all they have done against the Kaldorei and even the Alliance. They have the nerve to bring up the “purge” of Dalaran, even after they decided to join theie Banshee-Queen in needless slaughter and the burning of Teldrassil. They allowed her to raise the bodies of the death left and right and bring harm to Azeroth by mining Azerite endlessly and blighting forests and whole swaths of lands.

When the Blood Wars have ended, the Sin’dorei deserve only to rot alongside their once beloved Prince Keal’thas Sunstrider, for they are no better then the fel-maddened Prince they once brought to justice.

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We don’t want them tho.

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The other option for them is to stay in the Horde, and I don’t want that either.

It’s the lesser evil.

Actually, it was the other way around. He reached out to King Varian Wrynn, not the other way around.

Not as long as two people remain alive, one of whom has Christie Golden plot armour.

Hang on. It wasn’t a refusal to reconciliate, they actively set up bases, took land and attacked Blood Elves just going about their business. You can’t describe it as a married couple going through a messy divorce, the Kaldorei -actively- attacked the Blood Elves in their own home.

Auuuuugh! Why do people keep repeating this. The.Blood.Elves.Did.Not.Live.Off.Fel! The Fel Crystals kept the buildings stable. The whole reason for the split was because the Blood Elves decided to start draining mana from the creatures around them, I mean goodness, we even -see- that in the TBC trailer. They did not use Fel Magic to keep themselves nourished, they never did. Want to see what an Elf looks like who -did- drain Fel? Check out Selin Fireheart in Magister’s Terrace. Look like a Blood Elf to you?

-A Sunreaver-. It quite rapidly becomes apparent that it was not the organisation as a whole. There was actually supposed to be in game depiction that even Aethas didn’t know about it, until -after- it had happened, and then went “Ehh, hopefully no one will find out”. hence his awkward shifting, on Thunder Isle, that got left in. The Blood Elves did not do that. The Sunreavers did not do that. One or a few Sunreavers did do that. We’re on tricky ground if we blame a race for the actions of a few, but wait…

Lets call it what it was. A massacre. Jaina even starts it. She storms in and flat out kills two Sunreavers, before ‘arresting’ Aethas, even though she does not have the legal power to do so. She was the head of the Council of Six, not the undisputed Queen of Dalaran. She then has the option of using the legal law enforcement of Dalaran to go and arrest Sunreavers, or, she could use a Paramilitary group that have no legal powers of arrest and that she knows hate the Sunreavers to go and ‘arrest’ them. Guess which she chose?

You even -do- this as the Alliance ‘Hero’. You literally are ordered to go and kill a person who is taking out their own money from the bank, and trying to leave. Hells, you even take part in a quest to make sure that they can’t leave! You basically kill a civilian, for doing nothing illegal, with no proof of any wrongdoing.

This is basically turning Northern Ireland over to the IRA and going “You sort it out, I’m turning a blind eye”

Unsurprisingly, Lor’themar went “Oh, that’s your idea of negotiation” and pulled out of the talks quick smart. As you would. Jaina and Vereesa have, at this point, committed some of the very same War Crimes that Garrosh would later be tried for. Wasn’t just murder, there was torture too.

She came with a proposal from King Anduin Wrynn. He may not (and probably did not) have worded it as an order to Alleria, but she still came at his behest, carrying his word.

The Initial High Elf exiles weren’t actually that bothered about the Exile, it seems to have been the successive generations that were. I can strongly imagine that they would be annoyed at the perceived hypocrisy of the Night Elves by suddenly going “Mages are OK again” after exiling their grandparents however. Whilst Sylvanas -was- a Farstrider, I think everyone can see that she is fairly far from that these days, so I doubt the organisation would take any hit from that, or Silvermoon, any more than Humans should because of Arthas.

The same surely applies to the Draenei. I mean, the Blood Elves have Ban’dinoriel, the Draenei have the Vindicaar, but they’re both in the same aheh, boat. Does it make sense for the Draenei to join the Horde then?

No. The Blood Elves already worshipped the Light. They did so before Human Paladins even existed (Blood of the Highborne), it was the state religion. They had a crisis of faith when the Scourge came, but overcame that, as you say, during the dialogue with Velen. There were -already- Paladins amongst their people some who even studied under Uther. The High/Blood Elves worshipped the Light long before the Draenei even came to Azeroth.

What would you call a faction allied with the Void then? The direct cosmic opposite of the Light? How then does Anduin reconcile his faction, how then do the Lightforged serve their King alongside the very powers they oppose?

Incorrect, they are rather shown to be part of it, quite enmeshed one might say, why, they were the loyalist of Horde Races in Garrosh’s eyes before he turned on them also.

No! Mistake. They did not. They did not drain Fel to survive, they drained -Mana- from creatures. That was the magic technique Kael’thas sent back from Outlands. The Fel crystals were sent back to sustain the floating buildings and magical nature of Quel’thalas. Want to see what an Elf who lives off Fel looks like, check out ‘Selin Fireheart’ from Magister’s Terrace. They even have a special name. ‘Felblood Elves’. He look like a normal Blood Elf to you?

Not with the Spectre of War Crimes hanging over them it is not. The Alliance has shown it will happily prosecute War Criminals when it suits them, but will ignore them when it does not.

Until the Alliance puts Jaina and Vereesa on a neutral trial, then the Alliance has no moral highground when it comes to the Blood Elves.

How big an armed force do you think an invasion is? A -very- small group of elite soldiers…I mean look who is involved…even aside from the ‘Hero’, there is Rok’han, Zul, Talanji, Thalyssra. It is a commando raid. They run in, -fail- to get what they went for, pick something else up instead, and have to run away like mad because…Golly Gosh, Jaina turns up, like she always does…and everybody knows Jaina wins all the time, best run…

We have seen no proof of that whatsoever. When she is confronted with her visions of guilt, at no point does she feel guilt for actual murder by her own hand, and the murder and torture of civilians. I really doubt she is that conflicted, she is still bitter, twisted, and still, frankly, needs putting on trial. Besides. It isn’t whether -she- understands, it is whether the Blood Elves can -forgive- her, which it seems they cannot. Understandably, as she has shown no contrition, and the Alliance have failed to hold her to account. Who cares what the Alliance think? It is for -them- to make the first step, not the Blood Elves. We saw what happened last time they tried that…Oh, and the last time they listened to an Alliance Envoy. What is the phrase “Fool me once? Shame on you, Fool me twice, Shame on me” Hardly surprising Lor’themar told Alleria to go and Do one.

With massive losses. And you know the Scourge was able to do so because of an Internal Traitor, right?

I doubt the Blood Elves would leave the Purge behind, given that the Alliance has lovingly embraced its architect back into its bosom. I think they do hate the Alliance for it. As they should. They absolutely -should- still hate the Alliance over it. That organisation with either singular cowardice or distinctly intentional behaviour refused to hold a trial for a murderer, and a person who endorsed the mass murder and torture of civilians. We hold War Crimes tribunals, when the offender is an Orc, but seemingly not when they are human?

Jaina, and Vereesa, and Alliance troops. No idea what they were doing there, but hey, they were there and getting stuck in. So yeah, Murder and Torture is on the menu, yet no trials…weird…

Good way of making sure, would be Exiling them. Solves the problem. Oh…wait…

You can’t really talk about Plot Armour, when posting on a human character, I mean that is just ridiculous. We know of -two- racial leaders that survive the next six decades, who are they? I’ll give you a clue, they’re both Alliance and one looks no different.

But sure, the Horde has Plot Armour, its not like its leaders last longer than six bloody months, let alone six decades… Hey! At least this time we won’t have to lose a Warchief just because the Inevitably Human High King of the Alliance dies!

It has been -amazingly- cathartic.

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In accordings to Anduin himself they made sure to strike fast and swift to give sylvanas as little time as possible to prepare their defenses the Horde mustered what it could in the time given.

And was clearly using portals.
Meaing it was the reserves of the UC Army + what ever could be fit through the portals to help.

Source please that the Horde had more soldiers presentedat the SoL?

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Except the Forsaken Army were not present during the War of Thorns, which relied solely on Orcs and Trolls… Atleast thats what I understood as the Tauren were send to Silithus, Blood Elves were still in Silvermoon and Forsaken were still in Lordaeron.

So basicly it was the Forsaken and a handfull of back up against the full might of the Grand Alliance.

Kaldorei were defeated by the combined might of Orcs and Trolls with help of some Rogue’s.

So I have no idea where you got the “Reserves of the Undercity Army” from, because if they were not in Kalimdor during the War of Thorns and were not defending Lordaeron, I have no idea where they were… D:

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Because they knew where the Alliance was going to strike.
And as seen even Sylvanas knew they Couldn’t win and prepared a scorch earth Tactic.

One of the Key points tosuch a strategy is taking minimum losses.
Finally that was not a huge Army at the Uc.
It took an Azerite behemoth machine, the deployment of blight to weaken the Alliance enough to be at a danger.

The Alliance were the ones there with a majority of forces.

Also really the Sin’dorei should forgive and forget cos’ Proudmore made up with her mum?
Get real!

Also Lorthe’mar has no love for traitors.

Finally if you think the Alliance can mount an assault upon Silvermoon and prevent the Horde from taking Strom?

You got a surprise coming to yah.

We Sin’dorei will endure any hardship overcome all obstacles and emerge stronger than ever

You won’t see them switch side or even consider it!
Unless Sylvanas treats them worse than Garrosh for crying out loud.

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You see the Uc Forces you beat at the end of siege are called the reserves by Sylvanas.

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Oh fair enough, I don’t play Horde so I didn’t know that! I suppose she got the same problem as Stormwind.

Also why is everyone so focussed on being unable to pass the Warfront in Arathi when we all know the Orcs did it before to burn down Quel’thalas. They passed the Alliance Army during the second war, so we all know its possible. D:

We know it wont happen for gameplay reasons.

My personal point of view is that blood elves are isolationists.
I woudnt put it pass them to have an (un)offical none aggrassion pack with the alliance.
They stay in qual’sthalas and the alliance wont invade them.
It would benifit both side’s.
Silvermoon doesnt need to send its soldiers to die in yet an other foolish war and the alliance can focus on taking down sylvanas-turned-moron windrunner.

I cant really see any reason lothamar would do anything more then bare minimun for the horde in this war.

Blood elves see the horde as a means to defend themself.
If it becomes better for them to join the alliance they will do so.
Personal feelings be dammed.

That is the thing about politic’s.
You will do what lies in your interest even if it means siding with people you hate.

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