Blood elves belong in the Horde

That isn’t what an insult is though. And as I say, I’m not the one who has used offensive language in this post, unlike you.

No, you have provided no lore justification for your -opinions- Prove it, come on, here and now, prove it by repeating it, or consign yourself to the fact that you -have- no lore backing you up.

You can’t, can you. You’re going to come back with “I have told you countless times!” or “Just Scroll up!” Because secretly, you know you’ve got nothing.

But it is a bold statement, you claimed to speak for the Horde community and -also- stated that the Horde as in the in game entity did not the Blood Elves in. That is a very bold statement indeed.

Sadly not one you have been able to provide any Lore evidence of though.

So You Can’t. That last part of that sentence also needs taking out back and shooting.

Oh but I can, unlike you I am not afraid to state why.

1.Sylvanas wanted the Blood Elves to survive. She knew the Alliance were attacking the Blood Elves who were neutral at the time. She sends Forsaken to Tranquilien to aid in its reclamation. She also endorses the letter Lor’themar writes to Thrall. So she clearly wanted them in.

  1. When the player character goes to see Thrall, he also has another bit of info, that Lor’themar is offering Thrall, to sweeten the deal (The letter confirming that there were still living Mag’har on Outlands,which Thrall was unaware of). There and then, without even meeting with Lor’themar, Thrall tells the player character to return home and tell the Regent Lord they are welcome in the Horde.

3.The Blood Elves further prove their loyalty to the Horde by fighting against their own Crown Prince (who has in fairness betrayed them)

  1. In Tides of War, even that bitter racist Garrosh regards Lor’themar and the Blood Elves as the most Loyal of the Horde, and says so.

  2. The Blood Elves do the lion’s share of the hard work in the Domination Point. This is not coincidental, by this point there is open rebellion, the Tauren and Trolls have rebelled. The Forsaken look like they’re likely to be next (as does happen when they rise up and slay the Kor’kron guards), He only has three assets left. Orcs, Goblins and Blood Elves. What he doesn’t realise is that the Blood Elves realise that he is using them as cannon fodder, at which point like Baine and Vol’jin, their loyalty to the Horde comes before their loyalty to a tyrant Warchief. So they go to Thunder Isle instead of doing what Garrosh says, to get weapons to aid the rebellion.

Baine and Vol’jin directly reference this in dialogue at the Crossroads, saying that they need to wait for Lor’themar to return so that the Rebellion can make it’s move. Now why would they think that, if the Blood Elves weren’t an important factor?

  1. In WoD the Blood Elves are the only race of the Horde who commits their forces en masse, all other Horde forces are scattered about in disparate groups.

  2. In Legion, they are the only Horde forces who commit totally to the war (Sylvanas is more interested in grabbing the Soul Lantern) ultimately liberating Suramar, and putting on the charm offensive to the Nightborne, and getting them into the Horde.

  3. Thalyssra and Lor’themar are Azeroth’s newest ‘Power couple’, where one goes, the other will. So No Blood Elves,means no Nightborne, which means the Horde has just massively lost the edge in Magical Warfare, It also means they will have -completely- lost any capability in Thaumaturgic Warfare, as only the Nightborne and Blood Elves know how to make Golems. It also means they lose access to Mana bomb techniques. It would be crippling to the Horde to lose those two races.

  4. Who is in command of the Horde forces in Naz’jatar? Why, that would be Lor’themar and Thalyssra. Are the other Horde npc’s there following their lead without question? Why yes they are. Are they in fact the two people who lead the attack on Aszhara? Why, so they are.

  5. When Sylvanas does her evil Mary Poppins thing and flies off into the skies, it is Lor’themar who initiates the conversation about the future of the Horde, Both Baine and Thrall listen, the three are very obviously the power Triumvirate as the other Horde leaders wait for those three to make a decision, before stepping forwards.

  6. It pretty much looks like Lor’themar is leading the Horde forces in the maw, from cut scenes.

So, have some facts…

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You have not proven it even ones but i have proven you several time that blood elves dont belong

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He wont provide any proof and can’t link to where he claims to have given the proof previously.

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Heck fellow, you ain’t even done it -once-.

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Thank you Brigante for beinging the proof even though you probably had to repeat yourself :slight_smile:

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The Horde is our future. Deal with it. The Alliance can go suck it up. We are exactly where we are supposed to be.

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Yes it is and yes you whre the one who used offensive language. Yes i have taken it from lore and yes it does back it up within the lore unlike you who just post made up stuff and tries to force your opinion on other but you have never proven anything from lore. No it isnt a bold statement because i dont speak for the horde i just said what is common knowledge and yes i have provided lore evidence several time as you are well aware of. Yes i can because i just did answere it because all you need to do is scroll upo like i told you countless time and no the last sentance does not need taking out. And no ones again you show that you could not prove that they belong because in all you ranting it was several things that had absolutely 0% accuracy as when you menntioned sevral time in you rant with blood elves being the only ones sending forces in both warlords of draenor and legion wich is not true and also making false claim that there would be no nighborne in the horde wich i have proven you earlier on both point is not true as they other races did send forces and the blood elves had only a small role in them joining but in most it was the horde itself not just blood elves that made them join and Lor’themar is definitely not leading the horde. So yeah the only thing you proved in that rant is that you could not give evidence based on lore as the lore shows that the other races did send forced as you can even see in both the game and lore itself not just being blood elves that helps out and the nighborne would have joined the horde even if it wasnt for the blood elves as it was in the full of them having more in common with the horde than the alliance.

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Yes i have done it several times its you who have not proven it even ones

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Do you even realize how annoying you are?

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I already have provided you with proof perhaps you should try using evidence for ones in your life instead of empy words

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Its not my fault you find facts annoying. Do you realise how annoying you are when making up things about the horde that is not true?

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If you had any proof you could link it instead every post is the same.

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No you are not where you are suppose to be and you know it

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I do have proof as i have given you several times already and you could just scroll up to see it instead of making cheap excuses

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Link the post then, but you can’t, because there isn’t any.

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We are Horde and you will accept that. No takebacks. We stay red and there is nothing you can do about it. :wink:

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I may be alliance but i agree please stay in horde… we dont need mana addicts in stormwind.

Such as?

Right, so you are now backtracking on your statement that there is lore evidence and it is just your opinion? It doesn’t seem to be ‘Common knowledge’ at all does it? Just saying “It’s common Knowledge” is not a fact. It is about as reliable as “Some bloke in the pub told me…” or “It stands to reason doesn’t it?”

I said it needed taking out back and shooting which is a turn of phrase, not that it needed taking out.

Think you’ll find it was all factually correct. Which is the best type of correct.

Read it properly, I said ‘en masse’ as in, in both cases they are the only one’s who sent Battlegroups comprised of their own people, instead of a mingled force, the Battlegroup ‘Sunsworn’ in WoD, and Liadrin’s battlegroup in Legion, or pray tell, can you name the other Horde troops at Suramar?

No you have not proven it, you just -said- it, that isn’t the same thing. The other races did send forces did they? Did you do the Suramar campaign? Only four elven armies were there against Elisande and the Legion, The Nightborne rebels, the Quel’dorei, the Kaldorei, and the Sin’dorei. There were no other Horde forces involved. At all.

‘A Small role’? Are you for real? They’re the -only- ones who played a role. Ok, tell me, what other Horde races do we see at the Siege of Suramar? Hmm? What Horde race is it that opens up diplomacy with the Nightborne? Which Horde race is it that sends the player character to get the Nightborne into the Horde? Which racial Capital does Thalyssra then visit to join the Horde? When Sylvanas starts going nuts, what does Thalyssra say if you click on her? “I think we need to wait and see what the Regent Lord says, and back him”
And also, now that Lor’themar and Thalyssra are all loved up, how can you possibly say that the Blood Elves played ‘a small role’? The rest of the Horde played -no- role at all!

Go on, tell me what other Horde race sent forces to Suramar? I bet you can’t.

You simply have not. Other people are asking for your proof also, but you can’t provide any.

Because you are wrong.

Heh, that ship sailed long ago, High Elves are just as much mana addicts as Blood Elves :stuck_out_tongue:

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