BM Hunter rotation please help

Hi all

I am in need of some help. I have been an MM hunter for so long and to be honest is my main but im wanting to try something different so have changed to a BM hunter.

My problem is, i dont know the rotations. I have been on youtube and icy-veins and the like but cant seem to find owt.

Is anyone a BM hunter and have some good rotations that work well?

Hope someone can help me :slight_smile:

Thanks peeps

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Here is a basic rotation I use :slight_smile:

Opener:
Murder of Crows - > Barbed Shot - > Bestial Wrath - > Kill Command.

Then use Cobra Shot as a filler and Chimaera Shot to generate focus.

Maintain Barbed Shot on the enemy and use Bestial Wrath when not on cool down, and most importantly, use Kill Command everytime it is not on cool down. Kill Command is your main damage.

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Hi

Thank you for that its much appreciated. I will defo try this out.

:slight_smile:

The point in the spec is to have 3 stacks of increased attack speed on your pet at all times. Only use Barbed Shot when there is 1-2 seconds remaining on the buff. And do not spam Barbed Shot to gain stacks more quickly, that is a dps loss as you lose focus gains + you can’t rely on that you get Barbed Shot reset procs.

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BM nowadays does not have much of a set rotation but rather a priority when it comes to your abilities.

As an opener:
A Murder of Crows(Talent) - Bestial Wrath - Barbed Shot - Kill Command

Note: If you find yourself being far away from the target enemy, I recommend you use Kill Command before Barbed Shot due to it having a longer “cast range” compared to Barbed Shot. Also if you’re running with the talent Stomp there’s still a bug that causes your pet to use Stomp on the way to the target rather than when it has reached it’s target which means the actual Stomp could be wasted.

After your opener, proceed with:
Cobra Shot - Cobra Shot - Kill Command - 2nd Barbed Shot

Note: You might want to check the duration of the Frenzy buff your pet(comes from using Barbed Shots) has because at this point, if you notice that you won’t have time to use 2 Cobra Shots along with a Kill Command before the next Barbed Shot(as it might cause you to drop the pet buff before you apply the second stack) then just skip one of the Cobra Shots, use Barbed Shot the second time and then Kill Command.

Delaying the use of Barbed Shots like this will guarantee you a 3rd use before the buff runs out on your pet with every cycle. With some RNG you get to keep it up even longer.

A few key points:
-After the initial openers it for the most part is all about using Cobra Shot to reduce the remaining cd of Kill Command(you want to get as many KCs out as possible).

-At the same time you want to make sure that you don’t drop the Frenzy buff your pet gets from Barbed Shots. Sometimes you will notice that no matter how well you manage delaying the uses of Barbed Shots to gain the most uptime on Frenzy, eventually you will have to drop it as the ability recharges slower than what is req to keep the buff up 100% of the time. You do have a passive ability called “Wild Call” which has a chance to give you extra uses of Barbed Shot, this is based on RNG though so you can’t rely on it to manage the Frenzy uptime.

-When it comes to focus management as BM it’s basically this: try not to cap your focus bar as you gain quite a bit of focus back through passive regeneration meaning if you cap, you stop gaining more focus. Always make sure you have enough focus to cast Kill Command every time it comes of CD. The more focus you can spend during a Bestial Wrath-window, the better(meaning, don’t go into a BW-window with no focus).

-Your Aspect of the Wild(2min CD) should be used with Bestial Wrath. If you have an Azerite Piece with the Primal Instincts trait, you want to delay using the Aspect(most noticeable in the opener sequence) until you have 0-1 stack left of Barbed Shot or you waste re-charge time due to using Aspect will then cap your Barbed Shot stack count.

-Chimaera Shot is a talent you want to pick due to it’s high damage as well as a reliable on-demand focus regen. It would be ideal if you could use Chimaera Shot on CD, however you don’t want to risk capping out on focus or losing the Frenzy buff on your pet due to not using Barbed Shot in time. And Kill Command has a higher priority than Chimaera Shot as well. So as long as these conditions are met, go ahead and weave in your Chimaeras.

-Lastly, for AoE: Same as before, 3 stacks(or as many as possible) of the Frenzy buff on your pet is extremely important.
Using Multi-Shot to keep Beast Cleave active is of the highest priority but do NOT spam Multi-Shot. That buff lasts for 4 seconds so only use Multi-Shot as often as req to keep the buff up. Apart from this, weave in other abilities whenever you can.

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Thank you for this. What a massive help you have been :slight_smile: Thank you.

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Glad that it helped :smiley:

Sorry but i can’t keep myself stop laughing about this rotation advice above. You can not track all of these stuffs while you are dancing with the boss, otherwise you die in no time. You have to keep an eye on your position, party/raid members position, boss spells etc etc. Some addons may help you (like hekili etc.) for visual tracks of your spells but main thing is here you should keep an eye on all your damaging spells cooldowns as much as possible. This means, if you have any damaging spell is not on cooldown you should use it immediately. How long a damaging spell not used that hasn’t been in cooldown, you will lose damage equal to that time. Second important thing you must know spell priorities; focus spenders and focus regeneraters must be syncronized. And you can know this best with lots of practice.

I don’t find it particularly hard. Most of the time I barely even look at my action keys/CDs. Play a class/spec for long enough and everything within becomes part of muscle memory.

I make it a point with every encounter to memorize where the best place to use certain CDs the 1st/2nd/3rd etc. time. And if/when I come back and fight that particular boss again, I just do those things without thinking about them.

During a fight, the only things I actively track are:
Pet Frenzy Buff
Fellow raid member positions relative to my own
Boss mechanics, which ones come up next and how may they affect me? After a while when I’ve encountered a particular boss enough, most of the mechanics become muscle memory as well. What’s left to keep a close eye at is basically random debuffs or similar that you can’t really account for to much.

What I wrote above, might seem like a lot. But if you spend enough time on your class/spec then these things, most of them becomes something that just happens. You don’t really focus on them that much.

You may not but he probably will and not everyone has superb memory especialy for every different m+ afflixes, bosses etc.

Learning your class and how to, more optimally, utilize it’s various abilities/CDs as well as, for BM hunters, proper pet management and Focus management. This is a process, it takes time, not something one can expect to master within a week.

Also, the thing with this process along with adapting your class/spec’s specific playstyle(s) for certain bossfights/encounters, it’s not something you do once and then you’re good to go for the end of days. This process is constantly evolving, changing. With every new encounter put into the game, with each new piece of gear you put on, your characters style of gameplay might change ever so slightly.

How one player deal with these kind of things will probably turn out A LOT different compared to how another player deals with them.

As an example. I’m a person who wants his screen/UI to be as clean as possible. Many things that other players track through huge WAs or similar, I tend to track through plain visuals/sounds. I look at what graphic effects are displayed on my screen, I often listen to voice lines tied to bosses as quite a few abilities/mechanics within encounters have specific voice lines tied to them. Why do I do this? I like to engage multiple senses at once. Not just my eyes.
Is this the most optimal way for you? Or for anyone else? Maybe, maybe not.
Like I said, we are different.

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