I kinda think we should be focussing on the dungeon as a whole, and an affix that forces you to focus on that over the dungeon isn’t that great.
In a static group it’s probably meh who cares, but in pugs it’s just annoying.
If you focus only on the affix and ignore everything else, you wipe.
Affixes need to be taken in the context of the dungeon as a whole.
nah m+ entirely needs to go. dungeons should be fun and challenging with its own mechanics instead of having these tedious random/weekly affixes while the run is being timed
No-one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to do M+. If you don’t like it, don’t do it. Simple.
No because you can have packs where 2-3 mobs does AoE damage, and 1-2 instantly kills you. And after a while bolstered mobs become immune to CC no?
Your argument implies you need perfect synergy in your comp setup to effectively deal with it, and while that may be true, that is a huge drop point for me. I really dont want to see groups looking the for the same 3-4 specs each bolstering week like it was last season with almost every group looking for an aug evoker, guardian druid, shadow priest or mage…
For me affixes should of course be a challenge, but they should be dealable regardless of the comp you are running otherwise we might as well just accept a cookie cutter meta.
Not sure it’s a good thing if there are certain “bad” affix weeks and the group finder is empty of a role, because people don’t want to do it. There’s a difference between challenge and just annoying.
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You seem to be running most of your keys with the same 4 people, and you have no shortage of cc in your regular group.
It was a 1 day thing. Found the 4 guys looking for groups. So I dont really have a group to run with. And how is that relevant for my point? I might have the same 4 people, how does that change the general approach for people looking for people in LFG?
You didn’t all add each other to your friends lists? That seems like a huge missed opportunity.
M+ was designed with pre-made groups in mind, not for LFG. I don’t object to people making groups that way, but I do object to the content being dumbed down for their convenience. It’s also entirely possible for pugs to use their brains and do things like use CCs and defensives when needed, and focus the prio target. I’ve even met some who can manage that.
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Again, I see no relevance to the argument talking about me and my group? You are trying to justify an affix using me as an argument? It doesn’t matter if I have a group or not. Saying “Your group has no shortage of CC, so bolstering is fine!” is flawed.
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Yes, LFG is also a premade, as there is no que. And regardless of what the intention of it was, doesn’t matter for the reality… If we argue with ifs and intentions, Blizzard can just say “The intention of the mechanic was that people would have a comp to play around it” and noone could say anything to it. Thats what you’re doing here.
It has nothing to do with “convenience” or “dumbed down”… But we saw last season how mechanics that were skewed in one direction esentially meant that top players were forced to play 1 comp to be competitive and it made a ripple effect downwards in LFG. You almost couldn’t find keys without people looking for an Aug evoker…
While I do agree, it shouldn’t be dumbed down, and should be punishable not playing optimally, it makes zero sense for me to have mechanics in the game, that requires you to have specific spells in your group otherwise you are doomed… This pushes the community to favor some specs over others, not because of the spec itself but the affix.
You see the Incorporeals, they punish as well if you don’t stop them, but there is A LOT of ways to stop them, and almost all classes have an effective way to do so, so that becomes more of a skill barrier rather than “Oh hurp durp your comp doesn’t have the perfect CC train, so regardless of your healer popping CDs I will now kill you 
hehe” mechanics.
Pre-made means a group made outside of LFG.
The game designers aren’t responsible for people’s sheep mentality.
Bolstering is one of the affixes that doesn’t require specific spells. Every class/spec has a cc of some kind, and every player is capable of focusing prio targets. Afflicted, on the other hand, is a bad affix that leans towards excluding certain classes.
There is a warning. The warning is you killed 5 mobs at the same time.
You must learn to focus fire and stagger pulls.
I agree it’s a little annoying but it’s not that bad, and certainly not impossible.
No… Thats really not what pre-made means… It means you make the group yourself instead of quing up.
So whos responsible? They are the ones leading the narrative of what the meta is? Completely disregarding human psychology is a silly way of arguing.
I dont see how you think afflicted is a bad one, when its way easier to deal with as it has multiple ways to do so?
You can heal it or dispell it, so viable classes are; priests, paladin, shaman, monk, evoker, mage, druids and DKs? So unless you’re about to run a healerless run you can deal with both of them only with your healer?
You do know that CC exists in game ? And you can CC stuff before you pull ? Or anything more then "mauahaha lets aoe all down before any mechanics happen " is the only gameplay you aknowledge ?
Did you actually read my entire message or just decide to reply without reading it? Because your answer is literally in there
Exactly. People in LFG queue up.
I prefer to play with people who are capable of thinking for themselves rather than mindlessly copying the comps, talent builds, gear, etc that people run in a +30 in their +20s.
Come back when you’ve been the healer who has had to dispel one and heal the other while keeping a pug group alive.
No. People in LFG apply. Otherwise RBGs wouldn’t be classified as pre-mades either. Pre-made just means you had a pre-made group before signing up for the content. And as you form your group yourself doing it via LFG or your friends list is essentially the same mechanic just two different forums.
Again, I see no relevence talking about the general state and effect of a mechanic from your own stand point. I’m trying to elevate the discussion talking in general terms, but if you want to talk about my groups and what you prefer, we can just agree to disagree and call it a day, as otherwise we will be running around in circles all day 
Here I am, back And ironic, that you accept bolstering with the argument that people should think and not play mindlessly, but your argument for affliction being bad is “Been the healer who has had to dispel one and heal the other”, you are literally using the argument you dismissed a few replies ago made about bolstering? xD
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You can make up whatever definition you want, but the generally accepted definition of pre-made is as I described it.
No, I was directly responding to your statement that:
Of course, you expect everyone who has the ability to dispel or off-heal to help with the affix, but you could also make a group consisting of (for example), DK, warrior, hunter, DH and healer. Then the healer is forced to deal with all the affix mobs and heal the group because none of the others can help with it.
bolestering doesnt even increase mob’s hp anymore, it’s totally acceptable affix, way better than sanguine
No? what? When go into the “Dungeons and raids” you literally go into the section called “Premade” so instead of trying to force your own definition into it as “generally accepted” maybe just look at how its actually defined?
And no, since your DK would be able to heal it with death coil, you still wouldn’t be forced to do it alone. So unless you’re REALLY trying to go with only a single option, dealing with affliction will be possible for more than 1 person and in more than 1 way i.e. (healing or dispelling).
So again, kind of pointless arguing that people shouldn’t play mindlessly or should do this or that only to use the same argument for calling affliction a bad affix.
So I stand by my comment of it being a bit ironic way of arguing. But again, seems you want to discuss the matter from your own POV instead of general terms, which is not my point or interest in the debate