I actually had a remix character I was levelling get hit with boosting spam in the Shrine of Seven Stars because I completely forgot that remix is just a separate part of the retail realm.
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yeah i myself have seen it on remix. guess it is just pure fantazy that they do anything toward the players. But! i will keep my hopes up that they find a solution to the chat so others wont fall in the same trap as me. isnt much that is needed just a check box on your character that pops you in and out of the service chat. that you have to manualy check
But it is composed of real people. With their flaws and defects.
Which means : Just as in the real world some people will sell their mother for a profit⌠the same way scammers think its a quick buck to gain.
And there is nothing you can do about it. Nor can your government.
All you can do is be vigilant, and know to who you give your money to. Something you clearly did not.
So is the real world by the way. You think the government doesent try with all its might to police every⌠single⌠thing you do to make sure they tax you ?
But they cant. The only government that managed to âbe in controlâ is the Chinese. With a 100000 cameras everywhere, and a legion of people looking at your every move.
They might think its âOKâ to do something like that.
But Blizz is a company. They are here not for âsocial justiceâ but to make a profit. And hiring 20000 people to check the /service and /whisper and /party is not the way to do it.
People that give their bank details to the Nigerian Prince giving away money⌠kinda deserve to be scammed at this pointâŚ
Dont do it. Simple.
If you do buy boosting services, (A) dont go for the cheap option. They are cheap for a reason. And (B) all those boosting service providers are âlegalâ. So they have a web-page. With reviews. And other people giving out their opinion.
Google that.
Its the basic thing one does⌠common⌠welcome to the 21st century. You are not safe anywhere, and not even online. Especially online.
And its up to YOU to keep yourself safe.
Next post you do is that someone hacked your â1234â password and how unfair that is⌠
love how you completly ignore the main issue. Yes it is a fantazy that they act on the players, but they have the power to shut down the automatic join service chat system so others wont be pushed towards the shady players. that is the one thing they can easily do and it is done within 5 mins
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I am not ignoring the main issue.
You think that that shutting down the service chat somehow will make those people go away?
That they wont find other means of advertisement? Other means to scam you?
Boosting has been going on since Ever Quest. That I remember of atleast.
Dont be so naive to thing you can wave a magic wand and get rid of them. They would have done that 20 years ago already.
What the âserviceâ channel does is legitimize boosting for gold. Boosting for real $$ is illegal, and that blizzard enforces.
What that means is that while before you had a big pot of âshady peopleâ now you have âlegit boostersâ and âShady peopleâ. And you can freely google them, get reviews and all the rest.
Its protects you. But it you still have to google them up. Blizz cant do it for you.
Take on your glasses and READ. i say shut down the automatic join service chat system. meaning when you enter a city you see trade. general. and defence chat. you do not see service because it isnt a automatic join but rather a manual thing you have to check in to on your options/social tab.
This is needed because the game got children who also do not use common sense so therefor the chat shouldnt be a thing you see unless you say you want to
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It gets them token sales.
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I think the only thing they could do is to build a services feature with options like:
Complete a Raid / Dungeon at X difficulty.
Price set as Y gold.
Deposit Z gold.
If both parties would agree to this and only if these conditions were met (dungeon completed) then the gold would automatically be paid.
Would only work for easily determined conditions. Getting an Achievement, completing an instance or similar in game verifiable goal.
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all services and boosting should be banned
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A bit tricky to enforce.
Iâve been carried (for free) by kind folks in a guild. I got the NZoth mount which was cool (use it on my warlock).
Was that boosting?
I certainly didnât contribute much to the run.
What is the difference between a carry and a boost?
If friends help me achieve a goal and I give them some gold for repair bills or flasks does that change from a carry to a boost?
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Im sorry. And all the other chats that you join by default?
Have you seen them?
So many people getting scamed in trade chat. Overpaying for items.
a transaction of gold or money
anything that requires a service in form of currency exchange in my opinion should be enforced ban
- the game would be a lot healthier if boosting was gone
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If I give my friends some gold to cover their Repair Bill or Flasks.
What about a tip for being pleased with how well they did?
Used to be that mages would get a tip for doing portals.
Friends donât need paying, thatâs a totally different arrangement to say a person that gets scammed out of several million gold from people they donât know.
How about those throwaway accounts get banned from trading large sums, pretty easy to see they have done nothing in the game.
that would indeed be a good idea. enforce that you have to have a level 60+ for a character with over 100k gold. some would be annoyed that they have to level their bank alts. but that is a small price to pay for a cleaner game
You mean you handed over 120k gold without bothering to do any research into the people you were giving it to, and whether they were reputable or not. (If you had, you would remember the name.) Would you be that careless with your money irl?
Youâre not going to get rid of boosting, all you can do is try to push it into its own kind of black market, which then requires ressources in terms of manpower to enforce.
Blizzard is saving money by legalising boosts for gold but not through token sales. Instead itâs through GMâs not needing to trawl through whispers, bnet whispers, party chat logs etc. that can they can access internally.
Even enforcing their ban on RMTâs can be a pain because so much of that is more likely to be done through discord servers, which has its own set of legal issues with accessing and verifying (i very much doubt theyâre allowed to by EU law). In this case they canât just take screenshots of conversations as burden of proof since those are liable to being fabricated or tampered with by the one submitting them.
With declining player numbers since WotLK then it becomes hard and harder to justify spending ressources on this instead of focusing it on narrower issues, such as RMT and hacked accounts.
Trying to combat boosting is a losing battle because it requires setting hard restrictions on gold transfers in game which will then impact players trying to trade for specific rare goods and the likes, often advertised for through trade chat.
Setting up a âlegalâ means of buying services, such as boosts, is the far easier way to manage it for Blizzard because it by and large turns into a more self-governing market (granted, one that often directly leads to RMT from the big fish earning their share from a small âcutâ each transfer).
An established boosting provider donât want to appear as a fraud, which is why they offer gold back upon proof of a service not delivered and penalising those who took the gold despite not delivering. They donât have an interrest in appearing like a scam since itâs real bad for business when it drives potential customers elsewhere due to bad reputation.
In all then combating boosting as a whole is a losing battle with a tough time providing proper burden of proof for Blizzard to act on, leading to them allowing it for gold. It then largely becomes a matter of doing ones own research into who the gold is being traded to and if and how big of a risk there is for them if they donât deliver (be it through a more organised boosting service or not for one).
Doesnât take a lot for those running these services to simply have someone boost them through in a matter of a day or less and then reach the required level so that wonât be any kind of deterrence but more of a small annoyance.
A fool and his money and all thatâŚ
Stop looking for others to blame or to absolve you from your stupid actions.
âHey Blizz I just gave 120k to some dodgy geezer in a trenchcoat in that dark alley, turns out it was a scam - I blame you!â
It is not unreasonable to criticize Blizzard for not policing their own video game sufficiently. Because that dodgy geezer in a trenchcoat shouldnât be in that dark alley in the first place, if Blizzard took their own responsibility seriously enough.
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Good luck stopping all the dodgy geezers in trenchcoats, unless you treat everyone like a dodgy geezer in a trenchcoat.