Boosting issue in 2s

i feel you mate. trying to hit 1.6k with using only lfg ( i don’t have any in-game friends ) is like digging a tunnel with only a toothpick. possible but one wonders is it effective or viable ? :slight_smile:

worst part is, blizzard doesn’t even care. if they did, they have a real chance to solve many problems with one change : solo queue.

I am rdruid main, played feral. I was using my resto gear, which is 226 yes.
Before you bash me for my gear, I pushed several people to 1,6k on my MW monk. Like here, a fresh Ret (ye I know…) who never played Ret before and never had any relevant xp, probably the most casual player I ever met in my life.
https://streamable.com/k25f1i

I could also bring some other examples where I made a new rdruid with ilvl 183 and got to 1,3k in like one hour with a friend who was playing low geared (~190) SV hunter (before changes) and his max xp was 1,6k. (and that only because he was playing with my max geared rdruid)

Long story short, you can climb to 1,8k at pretty much every gear lvl in 2s, I did it with several chars with all scenarios possible, equal geared, being outgeared and outgearing myself. For people who can’t do that for whatever reasons, there are still rbgs and nobody can tell me getting 1,8k in rbg is hard :slight_smile:

Also, keep in mind, I rerolled mid season to my druid from rshaman. So I had all these “boosters” and geared people myself while I was climbing to 2,1k low geared. At no point did I feel like it’s impossible to climb because of that.

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I see it as a privilege getting into games with people much higher then me, I just play the best that I can and then I go through the game to see what I could’ve done better and learn from it, I feel like I learn alot faster playing vs good players compared to decent too so idk

What’s truly annoying is a boomy pressing convoke and you die, a rogue venthyr doing 31k dmg in 2 seconds (yes that is an actuality), and many more broken stuff I can’t even begin on.

As a healer main it’s beyond frustrating; especially when the entire 2s bracket consists of boosters. First time since 9 years I’ve wanted to just not play my main role (healer) and just join the darkside, aka the OP dps for ez rating.

I played like 200 games after the rogue venthyr change, didn’t get hit a single time for 50% of my hp or higher, at no point in no spec, nor my mates. Also, boomkin convoke is probably just a noob filter at low rating, I don’t even remember when I lost a match to boomkin convoke.

Btw what do we see here?
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/kazzak/elufarfal
ilvl 196, 1813 cr, 92 games played.

I’d assume someone who got to 1,8k with ilvl 196 would not make this kind of statements :slight_smile:
But I guess we both know you got boosted :^)

Thank you, I’ll respond to your hostility as best as I can!

I was not boosted no, I played with a friend who is primarily PvE, it was a struggle here and there I agree. But I got my set so I’m happy.

There have been times I have managed to paralyze/cc a convoke, unless I’m root beamed on my MW. :slight_smile:

The venthyr ability did well above 14k as I checked my death log. I might take back that it did 31k, as it could’ve been something else within those 2 seconds.

Baffling how you throw boosting insults because you disagree. I’d wager you’re the villain here.

Probably ways to counter the 1 shots rogues do, but certainly not my friend who specializes in mythic raiding and +20 and higher dungeons.

If I was boosted and, as you propose, that my partner was the primary reason I got to 1.8k, I’d love for you to ask him yourself just how many wins I secured from my own part.

Again, you disagree so you say “boosted”. I prefer not to buy boost services as it is a waste of money and I don’t fully trust it.

So now that the insulting-incentive word is out of the way, yes what I said is accurate. I could potentially be wrong about Venthyr hitting me for 31k alone, but it def did over 14k.

I’ll have to be very specific about that part since you seemed to have taken that as something worthy of calling me horrible player.

Edit: On that note, my point is not to attack anyone. :slight_smile:

I cringed when I saw him do that in bfa he just plays the best specs how the hell is that a challenge

ahhh yes so i guess it must be true then.

I was playing against 3 different boost groups yesterday. 1 of their customers was on my server. So I asked him about it and his reply was almost the same as yours.

“I dont even have the money to buy a boost” is what he said ^^.

I havent seen 30k or less hp players at 1800+ that didnt have a glad or rank 1 glad in their team. While not impossible the chances of that would be below 1%.

On top of that you wouldnt complain about class A or spec B. You know that your lack of gear could be the problem. So if you where legit you would add that fact in to your statement.

I have the money, but using it for a set is a bit beyond my comfort zone. But nothing is stopping you from thinking it’s a lie.

And yes you’re right, I probably need more gear. But I promise that I’m not into paying for boosts, although I did contemplate it yesterday but I managed to resist.

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No thats what the guy i literally screenshotted while he was playing with boosters said. You said something different but comparable. You both cant or dont want to spend money on it.

Let’s be honest. How expensive was it? :stuck_out_tongue:

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Idk, I found one site but forgot what it was called. Don’t remember how much the cost was though. Could you check for me? You’re much more knowledgeable about that than I am.

So you judge in this manner:

One guy said something, everybody else who says something even close to related is the same.

Aka, someone = everyone.

Although I’m not one to judge how you judge people, it’s not always the best mindset. But I see why you would be skeptical as it correlates.

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Thats impressive but hes doing it on stream so you can clearly see hows that done. Hes playing on every character with a rank one fully geared players that carry him to benchmark ratings for gear…and if you even try to mention that you get banned in the chat…like how is that challenge when a 227 rogue runnin around and killing ppl 2v1…mork porsea etc etc…if he plays with lfg he would be stucked at low rating with these undergeared alts like everybody else.

I love these stories. Because every time it turns out their “friend” is a glad kr atleast fully geared…

…you are the issue we are talking about…

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Nah its a matter of experience. Playing versus boost teams and seeing your replies.

  • You trying to make us believe your “friend” is a PvE expert.
  • You trying to mingle into a story about OP specs. Saying nothing about how the character you based your statements on was 30 ilvl above what’s common at 1800+.

So whos the “friend”?

Which is fine, that means you are not getting hit by convoke. Your mate can easily stop it or line it :slight_smile:

14k on a low geared monk sounds more reasonable, nothing surprising tho, I’d assume the rogue was 220+

I am not insulting anyone, I am stating my opinion based on the facts given. Step back and look at it yourself, pretend it’s not about you.
Someone who has <200 ilvl and got to 1,8k in under 100 games must be a good player or just a guy who got boosted, right? So how do we figure out which one it is? We check his statements.
Statement #1: I got hit 30k+ by a venthyr rogue in 2 sec.
(We both understood that you talk about the rogues venthyr ability here, we both figured out that was wrong.)
Statement#2: Boomy pressing convoke and kills.
(everyone who played around 1,4k knows he has to understand how to handle convoke at 1,6k+ you barely see any boomkins if any at all)

So my logical conclusion was that someone got rating without the xp. Other people call it boosting :slight_smile:
At no point did I mean or try to insult you, obviously.

Now you corrected your statement and it confuses me.
Since I am a healer main and my dps friends are not really good, I know how hard it was to get them to 1,8k, a way different story than me playing dps, which is ironic. Looking at your stats I’d naturally guess that your friend is a very good, experienced PvP player. But you said he is a PvE player and it was a struggle, therefore my confusion. It doesn’t really add up, especially with your statement that it’s hard to counter convoke.

But I am not gonna judge at this point, maybe we have a one-in-a-billion thing going on here and logic can’t be applied.

Also, I can’t ask your friend, you need to give me some data first.

First of all I didn’t call you a horrible player, correct? Otherwise, quote me.
When someone says he got hit by 31k, I have to assume it was 31k, anything else would be… inaccurate?
Also, I still do not understand how someone can play to 1,8k with no gear, on holy priest, in under 100 games, with a PvE friend and struggle vs convoke. I am sorry, it just doesn’t find place in my head.
Even if you abused the ray of hope one shot, just to use this requires more skill than stopping convoke. I hope I did express my confusion somewhat comprehensible.

My “friend” as you so kindly quoted because you don’t trust me, is Ergaw. Amazing guy that one, just waiting a week ish for him to go back to Venthyr since he wants to keep Necrolord and try it out in mythic raiding.

Experience matters yes and I agree that I am def not on gladiator or r1 level, which the boosters tend to be in 2s.

His PvP gear isn’t that great, only goes up to 15-16% ish vers. As I said before; he is specialized in PvE and not PvP, unsure how he could efficiently boost me like a breeze.

Oh yea he’s also 10/10 M and H, def not a PvE expert right? :smiley:

I also agree that I need more gear to stand a better chance against the boosters, I also agree that I don’t have the experience that they do. But I still stand by my point that certain aspects of this expansion is just otherwordly. Even Cdew and other people agrees upon it.

I’ll do my best though and def will not speak out on how I feel demotivated as a healer in the fast paced meta from here on out. Seems it wasn’t taken so well, since I was given hostility in many forms.

See, I am not trying to offend you or anything. I just read what you say and try to comprehend. You said he is doing m20+. He has not a single m20 dungeon on his warrior but that’s ok, I don’t really care about that. He got 10/10 in mythic raid, ok but that’s not the point anyway.
Btw some people would still call it a boost (not me tho) cause you are the one not geared meanwhile your mate is running mythic raid gear :slight_smile:

So yes, if it was with him, it seems to make sense. But understand my confusion, there are people who are higher than 200 ilvl, some even 220 and can’t reach 1,6k.
And then there is you with <200ilvl holy priest telling convoke is hard to counter and exaggerating the numbers by ~100%

Now your friend dropped over 200 rating in past 18 hours, I think he was playing with randoms or your monk, right?

What is your statement to the boosting issue, I am curious?

Oh, my bad. He was doing a +20 tirna yesterday so assumed he did, or it didn’t update yet idk.

He already did it on SV hunter, is SV considered one of the best specs atm?
But I am still sure we have many classes complaining on which he got glad already :stuck_out_tongue:

He played with my monk yea, although I began at 0 rating, he began at around 1.8 ish.

I mean I get why people boost, I personally don’t think the whole agenda is a terrible thing. But it gets a bit too much when it’s essentially all you fight against in a low bracket in 2s. A lot of people (including me) will not be able to be up to par with their experience or gear for that matter. It kind of erases our “chance” of climbing, or at least makes it one hell of an experience.

But I understand you np. I see how beneficial it would be for me to buy my way up to 1.8k but I for one, am saving up money as I have to pay taxes on top of food, on top of buying tickets for a plane etc.

It doesn’t come cheap at all. Boosting services from what I have seen, is expensive. I’d rather work my way there than buy it. I don’t live a cheap life, I don’t want to spend money for a set that I could spend for myself or someone else IRL.

Boosting I guess could be good for those who has the spare money and doesn’t have the time to climb by themselves, i.e. someone who has tight working schedules or something else.

What isn’t fair is that the enemies suffer greatly from it when the enemies are low rated and aren’t boosters themselves.

Again, I don’t claim to be a great PvPer, but it’s hard to kind of find ways to counter a booster who essentially knows how to play against me. Which is why a convoke isn’t always easy to get rid of. If I had Soulshape I’d have a much better time cc’ing their convoke, but I’m Venthyr, my only getaway is a trinket.