No YOU are the one who wants the game changed, and microtransactions added because YOU can’t be bothered to play it properly.
YOU are the one who wants the game around YOU. You and all the other pro-boosters who try bring your retail mentaility into Classic.
Can’t be bothered to watch a video as it’s ‘too much effort’.
Can’t be bothered to level as it’s ‘too much effort’.
Hmm… I could be wrong, but I sense a connection here.
Game doesn’t change by adding a boost. Games changes by changing stuff like Drums. Boosting is what we call a service. You don’t complain when people buy a service in real life to have say their pants tightened or put up do ya? Doesn’t change the clothes, it merely saves people that don’t want to do it time.
I don’t want the game to revolve around me, unlike all you people that wants to force everyone to go through leveling just to get to the latest expansion part. The boost option is entirely voluntary to buy, if you don’t want to, don’t buy. It’s that simple.
See, it’s funny, but it’s actually you people that wants the game to revolve around you and how you want to play, the rest of us just want the option to not play like that and somehow what other people would like to skip/spend money on pisses off people like you… Must be real hard living in the real world when people get stuff you don’t like.
Did I say it was too much effort to watch a video?
I’m not watching it, because I know I’m buying a boost lol.
Same with leveling, I find it boring as it’s very slow 
I still see no difference in somebody boosting me to 58 by mage dungeons and myself purchasing a single time boost.
One just saves the mages a lot of time.
boosting has a real impact on the game for everyone. Iam not a fan of this “we vs. you” but i just take that now to explain my point. We dont want to negativ effects in our game, we just want how the game was back in the day, thats it. If you really belive that boosting has no effect than i challange you to watch the video on youtube “A Ballad of the lvlboost”.
Most of us is even cool with fresh servers with no boost allowed, i even made a post to outline my solution to those debates. So everyone gets what they want, right ?
Yeah REAL WORLD RULES in a 15 year old !videogame! where you buy a boost to skip the majority of the intendet gameplay. Its the same as buying a haircut… dude… pls… you are better than that
I just don’t see how the boost impacts much really.
The views that it facilitates bots may be right - but tbh, they’ll get there anyway.
I’d be more interested in effects like class-stacking (which have been… considerable). But you’ll still have to get from 58-70 and if you can be bothered to do that, its not overly arduous to drag yourself from 1-58.
Basically it seems like fresh servers are far more interesting if you don’t wanted an extremely skewed economy. But that ship seems to have sailed for reasons unknown. (I guess Blizzard could always drop a couple of servers at Pre-patch, it surely wouldn’t really be breaking the bank.)
This guy hasnt read how much gold bots can farm from the boost 
Except you do want the game to revolve around you.
You don’t want to level, and so you want the game to adapt to suit you by introducing microtransaction which allow you to skip a significant portion of the game for real money.
This isn’t retail, it’s WoW Classic, in which the journey is more important that the destination, and levelling is an important part of the experience. All you want is retail set in Outland, and you don’t really care about the Classic experience, all you see TBC as is ‘a bunch of new raids’.
‘YoU d0Nt hAve tO uSe iT’ and iT ‘w0Nt afFecT yOu’ are meaningless arguments and cliches.
If there is a boost, you can buy it ofc.
It may seem that the outcome is the same = lvl 58 with crappy gear, ok ill give you that. But giving a player ingame currency is the same a buying a boost for reallifemoney from the company ? Does it feel the same to you when you read that ?
In short with the allowence of thios boost you will have way more bots, more cheater and 10 times worse economy than in classic. On top of that blizzard will implement more cashshopstuff wich will devalue the effort of every players time and accompleshments. Those are just some reason, i dont want to write them all down for the 5 time or so now.
If you dont care, its fine, but dont say is not impact, because thats actually not true.
We’re already filled with bots, unless Blizzard decides to implement harsher punishments on the people buying the gold… bots will always be running rampant.
You are right bots are a huge problem, but smashing oil in the fire isnt something we should do right ?
Imagine there are 10-100 times the amount of bots in tbc than in classic, because they can get boosted. And even if some get banned, they are right on track after that. I does not take a genious to see where this leads.
In other words the boost is an invitation for every goldseller to screw every economy on every server, as long as there is some profit to make with gold wich will be … well… allways. i think its save to say that nobody wants that right ? Do you want flyhacker on your server ? People who port from rare crafting mats to another ?
Banning will not help EVER again, so you have to accept that, that people do that and that the entry to do those things is very low.
So here is my question: What would you prefer if you have to choose? The boost and everything i outline above ( + alot more bad things ) or not that and having to level normal ?
It takes bots no time at all to level up, since they get banned MONTHS after starting it.
But it also comes down to the cost of the boost.
If a bot is gonna pay £40-£50 for a boost, the prices of gold will shoot up and less people would buy the gold.
What will the bot choose, a free way to level up by being able to level 24/7 or purchase a boost(which = less profits)?
Each time they have to make an account it’d have to be £40-£50(Sub + boost) rather than just the £10 sub instead.
For 1 boosted account, they could be making 4-5 non boosted accounts.
So once they hit 70, they’d be earning 5x more than what a regular 1 boost account would be making at the same price.
It overall adds up, but it depends on local prices etc
yes, but they 1. will not get reported at all, cuz they are boosted and 2. you forget the fact, that bots will start making money at higher level. Bots dont make gold when they lvl. So you can instantly boost a bot to farm brd (rogue). its like 50-60g raw gold an hour and with the goldprices atm ( 25 Euro for 1k gold on venoxis - horde, its a full server ), it would be less than 2 days until they payed of there boostprice. (subfee + 40 euro boostprice, could be more or less time will tell).
You can argue that the goldprice will drop, ok let it be 3-4 days. So if noboy is banning an almost invisible bot in 4 days played max it will make profit.
If you would be a Goldsellingcompany, how many bots would you boost ? Because there is really no downtime to it, its raw profit, with a very low barrier of entry.
I’m not going to watch your video on this.
Bots doesn’t matter, they never have. They don’t need a boost, they have accounts that boost them. They can also play 24/7. It is a fallacy to think this changes anything in that respect. RMT companies likely have backup accounts already leveled at this point that they just reactivate should an account get spotted and then they make another account and start leveling that up and deactivates it until another one gets banned. Scaled up a whole lot of course. If I were them and I’m not, that’s how I’d do it to keep my service running and cost low.
if you really want Classic, you’re going to have to accept that you also want bots, because Bots were around and very much active back then as well. You probably don’t, but hey, I’ll give you a tip. Google Bots spell out websites with corpses. Now it’ll say Wrath but I can assure you they did the same in Vanilla as well. After that they took to spamming chat channels once that got them banned, they started to whisper you incessantly. When that got them banned they got around the automated chat ban system by using special characters and so on and so forth.
See, it also works with a haircut. Though I don’t know how you got pants to be a haircut. Whatever, I’ll put it so simple you can understand it.
Customer A and B both buy Service C.
Customer A prioritize his money in a different way and does not mind the time he has to spend to make Service C work for him.
Customer B prioritize his time in a different way and does not mind the money he has to spend extra to make Service C work for him.
Put in laymans term.
Customer A buys Pants and does not mind tightening them him/herself and spends the time doing so.
Customer B buys Pants and pays the company to tightening them for him so he does not have to spend the time doing so.
Customer A buys a hair cut and likes his flashy new style, then goes home and gives himself a head massage.
Customer B buys a hair cut and a head massage and likes his new flashy style, then goes home and does something else.
Customer A buys World of Warcraft Classic, he doesn’t mind leveling up all his alts on his own, he enjoy it and he knows saves money he can spends otherwise.
Customer B buys World of Warcraft Classic, he doesn’t really like leveling up all his alts, so he buys a boost and he knows he get to the part he actually enjoys.
If I went by profit, I wouldn’t boost any at all.
Especially if you can make 4-5 accounts with the cost of one.
Because bots have no downtime,
You’re also forgetting the mats that they get during leveling as well.
Where did i stated that bots werent a thing back in the day? But it was different than today right ? A black lotus for 200g ? Righteous orbs for 3g99s ? You sure you want to go that road? As i stated in another post of mine → the amount is the problem, so its a tendency, like inflation.
And maybe you even agree on that, but boost should resulting in more bots right ?
Maybe you have another marketstrategy, but i think that maximising the profit esp. in a business where it is not clear how long it is gonna (riskfactor) is the way to go. But iam not an expert and never claimed to be one. In my humble opinion its common sense.
All the this talk… just wait 3-6 month into TBC, you wil see for yourself. I would love to be false on that trust me.
So getting a change in the size of pants is a service, right? So is a Haircut.
I would like to talk to you but only if you behave as in adult, wich you do not. Stating that another human beeing is “stupid” or not that smart just shows how incecure or angry you are. Why would you talk like that ?
Cool story i guess? What has that to do with “boosting will ruin tbc” for people who are the reason you can even play the game? You just randomly writing stuff down and this doesent bring us one step closer to a solution. Because in the end iam here for that.
How can you think that boosting yourself into a game that was not intendet to do so can be explain by the similarities of a " service " as a general concept? Even if you could argue in screwed up way (IMO) that there are similarities, that was NOT my point in the first place.
The whole nature of buying one thing is different. Its a haircut, no big deal right ? Nobody gets hurt if you get one. But buying that boost has alot of strings attached to it. There are problems that gets invited with it, alot of them. This is what i ment when i wrote the following:
The time you wasted on this story arguing a point i never made would be maybe enought to watch the video and then you would understand me and everyone who is against the boost and then we could have a real solutionoriented debate about that.
What do you think ? Can we do that instead? I would be gratefull for that.
I would agreed with you buuuuut
All of those old expansion already happend and we already know how lvling is what to expect many people just wants to do some dungeons and raids
If there is no risk, that could work i guess. but here is a risk involve, its a very high risk even. Imagine blizzard has to do something about the bots, maybe the get pressued by stakeholders. Your goldselling would be over in weeks. Maybe iam a fool but i would crab as much as i can, for as long as i can. Because i dont know for how long it wil last.
Sure, your right. It is possible to farm leather or something, this could incease the output. But this would expose bots more i think.
And its questionable how much value this actually is compare to the 50-60 gold raw gold. Dont get me wrong you have a point here, but if this would make a difference is hard to say. Looking at the numders i dont think so.
Thats 100% a thing i can see that. But there are games that are more for that kind of player. Its WoW - Shadowlands.
But the playerbase changed you can see retail mentality in classic right now.