Boosts is going to ruin TBC classic

[Kemurai-argent-dawn]

@Khørus-venoxis

thats actually a minmax classic mindset ^^

Yeah, it is.
But people at the start of classic called it a “retail” mentality.

[Khørus-venoxis]

@Michieltjuhh-doomhammer

Correlation does not imply causation. How many more players would the game have dropped if there was no level boost in place, causing far less new players to actually pick up the game? How would the game look now if new players were, every new expansion, forced to go through even more outdated content before reaching the content everyone else - the (ever declining) stable playerbase - is playing?

Those things are assumtions and as someone who states:

@Michieltjuhh-doomhammer

It’s a 15 year old game returning, not a new product. History has taught us which choices were popular (read: not loved by everyone necessarily, there will always be people such as yourself, but by the majority) and which choices were not.

should value the actualy causal reasons i.e. what has happend and what causes them.
You are 100% right, we know what has happend in the past and also kinda why. Ofc bad game design could be a factor too, but seeing that graph and the timings on new shopservices just blends too well together.

[Khørus-venoxis]

@Kemurai-argent-dawn

But people at the start of classic called it a “retail” mentality.

yea it is funny.

its was kinda a retail thing to do but in the end people in classic minmaxes way more. ^^

[Kemurai-argent-dawn]

Yep, then they’ll call it the same in TBC lol.

[Silvermind-grim-batol]

100% Agree

[Michieltjuhh-doomhammer (Michieltjuhh)]

@Khørus-venoxis

@Michieltjuhh-doomhammer

Correlation does not imply causation. How many more players would the game have dropped if there was no level boost in place, causing far less new players to actually pick up the game? How would the game look now if new players were, every new expansion, forced to go through even more outdated content before reaching the content everyone else - the (ever declining) stable playerbase - is playing?

Those things are assumtions and as someone who states:

@Michieltjuhh-doomhammer

It’s a 15 year old game returning, not a new product. History has taught us which choices were popular (read: not loved by everyone necessarily, there will always be people such as yourself, but by the majority) and which choices were not.

should value the actualy causal reasons i.e. what has happend and what causes them.
You are 100% right, we know what has happend in the past and also kinda why. Ofc bad game design could be a factor too, but seeing that graph and the timings on new shopservices just blends too well together.

Of course, for WoW it’s an assumption. But it hasn’t been for other MMORPGs. I agree on other shop services, such as the mount, though.

[Martel-sporeggar]

@Blobbers-dreadmist

It won’t make the bot problem bigger

Yes it will. The boost makes gold farming way more profitable if you factor in bans and how long it takes bots to get back to the lucrative part of the game.

People calculated the difference between botting with boost vs without boost in terms of gold per hour and it’s staggering.

I think MadSeason talks about this in his recent boost video.

If it’s way more profitable then we’re guaranteed to have a much larger influx of gold farmers than before.

[Pinkfist-sylvanas (Pinkfist)]

I dont care about boosting, i just wanted play tbc classic with original services.
There should be servers with no boost and others kokotinos.

[Jaming-firemaw]

then it’s simple, just but some fresh servers up.

[Alfredsson-gehennas]

Not really that simple, there are plenty of people who are against boost and want to continue to play thier classic chars into tbc.

[Holdmydots-mirage-raceway]

The boosts will increase bot influx by 10 fold… They don’t risk getting banned while levelling. 58-70 is very quick, they won’t get noticed.

Blizzard need to actively ban bots in TBC unlike what they did in Classic where they only really did something when players reported the bot as they stated in a QA livestream on Twitch… Which in VERY CONCERNING