So that 12mil peak is with the players from the China included?
Yes. With a population of 1+ billion it’s not that much really.
No. WoW in China didn’t use subscriptions until 2016.
They specifically did not say MAU back then, they said subscribers. You couldn’t subscribe in WoW China. Instead, you purchased online time. In 2016 they were converted at a rate of 2½ hours → one day of sub
Still no.
Those 12 million were KR, TW, EU, US.
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That also means that game time users are also not included? If all the is true then graphs are gibberish and nonsense.
They were indeed not.
The graphs aren’t really gibberish at all, but you can’t use them to determine the quality of the game exactly. Gotta be more subtle than that.
The truth is that retail is A LOT less popular now than it was during vanilla-MoP. A LOT.
I don’t think we have any way of knowing what happened in a presentation none of us can access.
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I am not denying that. I am saying that without game time buyers we can not to have exact number of players. AKA peak was much higher than 12mil.
Oh. No, that’s definitely true. I think during WotLK it was probably closer to 16-18 million. I should note that most of the time we were playing WotLK in China they were playing prepatch cause WotLK got banned due to showing too much bone. (Yes, really)
So that whole situation was sortta weird.
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Yes, i mean they don’t stop you from playing, they stop you from buying literally anything, unless it’s some key from third party service with price doubled of course
Aren’t blizzard literally were posting statistics for wotlk with number being something something 11 mil?
i take any video of bellular with a grain of salt .the guy is known for posting wrong information a number of times.
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Peak was 12m going into cata
True. But it was reported in wow head too. It seems true this time
So, there are no actual figures out and people are mostly speculating. Though the graph shows just how well Dragon Flight is doing compared to shadowlands. Even with the Burning Crusade and Wrath bumping numbers wow was around 4 mil subs based on what is being speculated. 75% of that player base was probs classic, I think. Honestly, I think shadowlands had around a million in players at its lowest point.
I think shadowlands almost killed wow.
It was VERY, VERY close. All three patches were dreadful. Especially 9.1, my God.
12 million subscribers. The Chinese weren’t subscribers, so they were on top of those 12 million.
No, they are included. See this: https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/world-warcraftr-subscriber-base-reaches-12-million-worldwide
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World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
Well that settles it.
China used neither IGR or subscriptions. They are NOT counted. The only way China is mentioned is that it says it’s in the wake of the game launching in China, which is true because it was delayed by like a year over there, as I mentioned earlier.
Blizzard-Activision disagrees.
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Didn’t write that. You two just aren’t reading it.
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft , as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
These systems were not in use in China. End of discussion.
Indeed i think its clear they were counted. But the two sides are not going to agree.
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