Don’t get me wrong, i like monks, but i can see why the Chinese people did not like the mop theme a lot, it’s just a bit too silly.
They portray the pandarens as a bit too unseruious, at least on the surface level, and i think the brewmaster is the exact representation of that.
It’s not a bad spec, it’s fun, but this theme of drinking like an alcoholic… Couldn’t you think of something a bit more “serious”? A tank martial artist, that drinks a lot of alcohol and somehow is still standing, and capable of getting hit, like i don’t know if you have ever seen a drunk person fight, sure their pain might be lessened by the alcohol, but they are not good fighters, like at all.
So there’s that, i think brewmaster theme is too stupid, too unserious.
And sure, you could say that wow is pretty goofy, but really, when you think about it, it really isn’t, there are a lot of bad things happening in this universe, you could have easily made this game 18 + if you wanted with these kinds of themes, the mop expansion in my opinion, although a good expansion, the theme of it, especially at the beginning was too goofy.
Unserious is the point which I quite like myself and MoP in general is great because of it. That being said it had some very serious moments as well and it worked well together. But to each their own though.
Yeah but why is a brewmaster any different from all the other unrealistic things in the game? A drunken tank or a Gnome wearing plate… both equally silly but both work just fine within the game imo.
For me, it’s the unserious manner of it that doesn’t fit quite right.
Sure a gnome warrior beating a tauren is kinda ridiculous, but the theme of the warrior is not.
You could have a warrior midget, realistically he or she would lose against someone way bigger, but it’s within the realm of possibility to have a really short warrior.
Monk are generally one of the best designed classes in terms of actual gameplay, but the theme of the brewmaster is pretty dumb.
Unfocused is the word I’d use. They’re too all over the place. You have serene meditative philosophers, next door there’s disciplined martial artists, so far so good… and suddenly there’s lederhosen-wearing drunkards, hick brewers, traditional Asian-like farmers, modern day western-like farmers and half-ninja military. It seems they couldn’t decide which direction to take the pandaren, so they took them all directions at once.
Most of that is more recent. Originally there was plenty of sillyness in WoW.
I personally like the MoP theme a lot more than the edgy themes of Shadowlands for instance. Each to their own; I’d like WoW to be LESS serious, not more.
I think Blizzard does ‘over the top silly fantasy’ better than this edgy, grim stuff we’ve been getting.
In classic you were fighting dangerous monsters, and even an old god, in tbc, you were fighting a universal level threat, and there were themes about slavery, massacres etc…
In wrath, you were fighting undeads, and there were also dark/serious themes, like there is no expansion where the tone is silly aside the beginning of mop.
And not even in warcraft. Just because there is the occasional dumb stuff, it doesn’t mean that the whole thing is silly.
That’s the problem with the brewmaster, it’s because the whole thing is stupid. Or at least too much of it is.
You’re leaving out the silly stuff. Not all the monsters were dangerous; plenty were silly or funny.
Yeah, I hated TBC. Depressing travesty of an expansion imo.
I don’t view the beginning of MoP as silly honestly: it starts with a big battle between horde and alliance.
Well, that’s your opinion and that’s fine. But that doesn’t make it a fact.
I mean; I think Demon Hunters are a stupid class with their dumb edgy stuff. But plenty of people like 'm.
As I said; each to their own. I think a balance is best. Some sillyness, some seriousness.
Shadowlands definitely leans way too much to the edgelord fantasy imo.
Yes, but if you actually read the whole thing, you would have understood what i actually meant.
Rock lee is not permanently in a drunken state, he did it a few times, you can count it on your hands, the rest of the time he is a serious, and very good character, that has a clear goal.
His story is not just, i’m a drunkard that does martial arts.
That’s not what I said. They’re edgy. And I don’t like that.
Just as you don’t like silly.
That’s my point: Some people like other things.
I don’t like edgy.
Look up ‘drunken master’ fighting style. It’s a real thing.
Agree to disagree.
The story is one of the lesser issues of Shadowlands for me.
The themes are bad. The zones are bad. The content isn’t fun for the most part. Casual players who don’t participate in ‘the big 3’ got majorly screwed over. Those are the big sore points of Shadowlands for me.
Of course you are. But you’re dismissing other people’s opinion on them.
A forum thread is for discussion; discussions are rarely one-sided on these forums.
I don’t agree with you. You seem to have a problem with that. No need to be passive agressive about it mate.
Honestly it sounds to me like you want an echo chamber.
Not a discussion.
No, what you are complaining about is the fact that i pointed out that some of the things you guys said don’t make a lot of sense.
You can call it dismissing, but it really isn’t, i’m just pointing out, just like with the drunken stile that some of you brought up. Or the rock lee thing.
