Bring back horde vs horde

How is it fair and balanced that Alliance can farm 5x as much honor as Horde in the same timespan? How fun is it to wait 1 hour to join a 10 min BG?

Bring back Horde vs Horde. You had 2 test periods and 3 months to analyse the data, stop being fcking useless Blizzard and decide if you want Horde vs Horde or not so i know if i need to quit the game or not.

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Agreed. There are literally no reasons to not have HvH in the game, no downsides at all. Wake up Blizzard.

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There are downsides, some Alliance players got ganked in Phase 2 of classic and are very smug about the fact Horde have long queues. If HvH was implemented it robs them of that smugness. Gamebreaking.

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Are we serioulsy doing this again?

No downsides?
Except for miniscule alliance population on PvP servers where they are the minority already?
Or that it feels stupid to fight your own faction.
Or that it doesn’t even belong in the game, as it wasn’t in back then and part of the reason for this project was creating a authentic experience (Yeah… I don’t really believe in that anymore either, at this point.)
Or that it allows for much easier win trading, therefore making honor on horde side skyrocket. (Before you are being stupid: I said EASIER, I never said it was impossible before.)

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Pleasing the minority instead of the majority would be dumb.
It doesn’t feel stupid to fight your own faction, but you feel stupid waiting in queues for so long, both factions should be able to play BGs properly.
Level 58 boosts, both seals for paladins, changes to LW and a different timeline also wasn’t in the game, yet here we are. To hell with the authentic experience, make it playable for everyone.
Honor is not going to be an issue at all anymore since they’ll reduce the cost of Honor gear, no reason to set up win trading at all.

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It’s working as intended, BG’s are meant to be Alliance VS Horde, fair has nothing to do with it. Don’t like it? Go play retail.

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How about go back in time and play original TBC if you want to play AvH exclusively?

It is 2021 and we need QoL changes.

Edit: No changes isnt a thing anyway. We start arenas at rating 0. Could you already stop crying about #nochanges?

Bringing back HvH is the solution, easy.

thats what you get for flooding the game with boosted undead males

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Pleasing the minority would be dumb? I guess wotf needs some buffs then, the uds (majority) wants it, such a dumb line of thinking…

Please explain to me step by step how horde will win trade, and also please tell me how you will find 10-15 people willing to go into a BG to lose. Im waiting

From ganking will not be learned pvp, that’s why he wants pay2win from the game?

Nice try, but I will not risk a forum ban, just because you are lacking in creative thinking.

There’s over a decade of QoL changes in retail, go play that.

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Ive never seen a single win trade or similar like what happened on private servers. You are making up problems that does not exist.

Probably because private servers are actually moderated, unlike Blizzard’s life servers.

You make zero sense dude… You say private servers are moderated and therefor win trades could happen? Wut?

Edit: Win trades could happen because queues would pop in a bg, so you could queue AB and WSG, enter WSG, see ur against premade, go AB when that pops.

That cant happen in Blizzards TBC, so im still waiting for you to tell me how anyone could win trade

No one true alliance player will reroll to Horde because of HvH, Same goes for Horde no true Horde player will reroll to Alliance, because of long queues.
If you think that everyone who play tbc have time to level 70 char, and leave his main on Alliance/Horde faction just because of racial, or queues time, so you are really wrong.
What is your real purpose(Alliance players), is not to allow horde players to get gear at same speed like you do, (alliance instant queues advantage).
Because it will be harder for alliance to fight horde on battlegrounds with same gear, its called fair competition.
But you don’t like fair competition on battleground, so of course you don’t wont to loose honor farming advantage and instant premade advantage, so right now you may continue to fight blue and green horde players, without any chance to loosing against them.
I hope blizzard understand and will come to adequate solution for all players not only Horde or Alliance,

  1. Create filtered battlegrounds based on gear rating of players.(Fully pvp geared will match only vs fully pvp geared opponent team)
  2. Filter premade vs premade only. (no unfair matches pug vs premade anymore.
    And after this only, there maybe will be no need for HvH.
    If not, HvH must return very soon.

It took Blizzard 2 years to remove artifical 400ms lag from wow classic. There is no way we are getting Horde vs Horde in 2021.

I am for it but don’t just bring horde versus horde do it and mainly being queued against horde but bring same faction battlegrounds back so in case hordes are busy or in a battlegrounds at anytime of the week and night i can face Alliance aswell, I want to face all players and get better !