Bring back personal loot at least in lfr

LFR wise sure make it personal

Current system is not ok for many reasons. I vote for lfr being personal, NM , HC and Mythic to have 2 more personal and grp loot.

With personal loot u could pug would work like to setup loot system before first pull after boss is down there would not be chance anymore u could reverse that. That would lower risk of switching system for bosses and potentional scam people who joined your promoted Full clear - personal loot!.

Guilds would prob run still grp loot since is better way to manage loot council and that is fine. But give chance people what they prefer is way to go. Just grp loot dont work with pug or que system is too much errors with it make raiding so painful.

What people how doing in pug is:
-Kicking so u cant roll
-Needing items that dont need and sell them
-Making raid comp without classes they share token, weapons or trinkets.
And this is just personal what people do a side that rng is even more broken now how u win item .

Sure someoen can say just join guild and problem is solved but I cant join with every alt in guild is not just optimal and bet there is a lot people who play alts and dont see that as good solution. Since u have main and already in guild raiding days u can. Pug is there to jump or create raid when u need time.

I really enjoyed going full random in this Add-On for the first time, since I ended up in a raid and lost my BiS 1h-Weapon and the ā€œVery Rareā€ Back for Tanks to the Raidlead, who told me that he needs it for Transmog. Personal-Loot was a very good solution for situations like that if u ask me. Just feels bad to loose a roll like that. /edit mistyped

Sure u can run raid with grp loot but I prefer to have option to choose what i want from my raid experience. Everyone should play game how they want and not be forced to play others people choice.

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What i find weird is time walking raids are still personal loot.

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because u go back in time :wink:

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i mistyped → i meant personal loot not grp-loot :wink:

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I want to go back in time when u would get loot in bags and sometime even in mailbox kekw

Personal loot in LFR is indeed the way to go.
Nobody cares if Timmy Jenkins pays 2kkkkk to get funneled all the loot of a raid once per week.

Game needs to stop to balance toward the 1% of outliners.

No thanks. I have flashbacks of 10 people whispering me, begging me, threatening me to hand over loot I won from boss.

This isnt issue. If they couldnt need it for mog they wouldnt do lfr in first place. So on their place would be someone pressing need on item anyway.

And? Thats completly normal.

I think the raids should be personal loot. I done a post last week because i done the raid on normal and a DK won 4 items on the rolls… one of which me and the dk tied on a roll of 100 and he still won it. Safe to say i haven’t got over it lol
Obviously they were extremely lucky but what made the pill even harder to swallow is that was my first ever 100 roll lol

Personal loot has nothing to do with this problem. You can be whispered to hand out loot you won by roll as well.

Personal loot has nothing to do with this problem either. Personal loot selects random people among eligible to get the loot, you can have long unlucky streaks as well.

IMHO, Non-LFR raids/groups should not be locked in any type of loot, it should be a raid/group setting (as I believe it is now). When you are organising the group it’s up to you to decide what to do with the loot. If you want to pile everything up and uniformly distribute it in the end because you feel that it’s fair - you can create a raid with this rules, gather like-mind individuals and do it (in this case there is no direct setting, but you can still do it if you want, by giving loot to rl and using 4-hour trade rule to redistribute).

Personal loot is not magic and it is more-or-less equivalent to everybody pressing need on everything. The only small difference is that all items you won are converted to smth suitable for your loot spec. This has its upsides (easier to gear for your loot spec) and downsides (you can’t gather transmog for alts this way, but let’s be fare there never will be a situation when transmog roll can win in current LFR setting).

I don’t think personal loot should ever be a thing for organized raiding/groups, as it can lead to really weird optimizations (like healing paladin setting his loot spec as tank for particular boss which drops bis tank trinket your group needs).

LFR/LFG would not break the game even if somebody can exploit personal loot there, as items you get there don’t have too large of an impact. I strongly support personal loot for LFR/LFG as healthy atmosphere, when nobody feels that he should lie to get a chance to get transmog he wants is way more important on low-level PvE, than any concerns that somebody can exploit the system for small speed-up in gearing.

The removal of personal loot is the reason why i stopped doing lfrs, which is a shame since ive quite liked the colors of the lfr sets.

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Need is or should be this is a statistical upgrade for me. Anything else is greed

U have that same with rolls what to tell u get thicker skin and use option iggnore, report.

With personal loot u have bad luck protection system with rolls not so much. My 5 chars all this time did not won any tier token and overall I got 2 items. With personal loot I would get 1-2 items with this rolls I got dispair.

U cant create raid with rules without master loot in pug, everyone can roll need if they want. I bet u dont pug when u made this essey post people cant join with all chars in one guild and have organize system of loot.
Idk why u dont get and dont wont to have 2 systems in this game for loot. Personal and group so everyone can setup their raid how they want.

No it is not normal since this is not classic we r not having GDKP in retail. If u dont need item dont roll is easy.

There is zero point to story mode… 1 boss no loot… there is YT if you really want to see the movie.

Personal loot is just the same you just don’t see the rolls… You win some you lose some you don’t play the lotto and expect to win every time right?

Is not the same since u would get items with personal loot. U cant say is normal that in 3 difficulty I cant get single item how raid was released. To get some upgrade I need to wait reset day.

Some people want to see the end of a game, in the game, so story mode does indeed have a point.

It also seems quite popular around the industry, and number of games offer story mode now.

While I prefer normal and heroic, story mode allows people who aren’t into raids to be included and at least see the end of the game…in the game.

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