Avenging wrath might needs to also increase damage per stack like crusade does 5 stacks compared to crusades 10 as this option has a shorter duration and a shorter cooldown
Why?
10/char
why because why would anyone pick avenging wrath might over crusade? please tell me
But… the counters are NOT the reason ppl pick crusade so im wondering why you want that part.
It has a longer CD + build up (the part you want) in exchange for longer duration, more dmg % buff and haste instead of crit.
Just adding build up will only serve as a nerf and nothing more. Thats why i asked and i see that your reasoning was flawed.
We need to do something to improve the state of Ret in TWW, this is not it though, Blizzard needs to look at the series of nerfs in recent builds and think again about the spec.
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Crusade is 2 mins with the stacking buff
Might is 1 min without.
Might was/is often the default because the increased frequency, especially when lining up with Final Reckoning or Execution sentence is potent. Now you do normally take Crusade with Radiant glory because might has no purpose in that combo, but if you didnt take radiant glory, which is fairly standard for M+ builds at the moment, then you would often take might instead for that increased frequency. But at the end of the day, its personal choice.
TLDR
2x Avenging Wrath: might = 1x Crusade
(P.S I dont know if its the same for everyone else. but Crusade has a bugged tooltip)
Output wise seems fine, what I want more than anything else is a bit of… spice.
Its annoying that FR and ES cant be taken at the same time like you could before the rework and I wish divine purpose was a more accessible talent (its in a wierd place)
Im hoping the Heroic talents add what I feel is missing, but im just going to have to wait and see for that (CBA with the beta)
I also just want some “fun” abilities, like i’ve always wanted a short range leap ability, short-ish CD, no HP cost, 10-20 yard range. Leap at the target and hits reasonably hard. Think Yrel vs Blackhand or Tirion shattering frostmourne type ability. Would be fun, look epic and help with our mobility issues
Crusade has been nerved so much and depends even more on perfect execution of rotation to max it out that they could have reduce the CD or reduced some of the nervs they did to it.
There’s already a trade of in Avenging Wrath Might vs. Crusade in the different but that it gives and that it only works if there’s enough time to stack Crusade up.
1 minute wings should also add a dmg% per stack the difference being that crusade also gives haste per stack.
Never been a fan of crusade all though i have had to play it because its the only viable option
Sigh, 1 min wings also gives Crit… its 20% dmg and 20% crit for 20 sec on a 1 min CD
VS Crusades 3-30% dmg and 3-30% haste for 27 sec on 2 min CD
Just adding stacks on Might is a NERF, nothing else!
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Avenging wrath might just gives crit not a dmg % it should be crit + dmg % crusade is dmg % haste% crusade is superior in every way thats a fact.
Crusade also benefits from the 20% buff from the baseline wings talent in the regular paladin tree
Avenging wrath might needs buffs to become viable when compared to crusade even if its just 5 stacks that would be sufficient compared to crusades 10 stacks
No? When i press Crusade my FV dmg (on tooltip) increases by exactly 3% before i get any stacks up and ends up with 30% at 10 stacks, Might instantly gets me a 20% increase
Just adding stacks to Might you will still only end up with max 20% more dmg. Be it 5 stacks or 10 it still maxes out at 20%.
If you now mention that “well just increase the dmg aswell” That wasent what you asked for… You only asked for stacks, they do nothing to increase dmg, it would only create a build up, nothing more.
If its in pvp that you are talking about then yes it needs a buff as it only gives 10% dmg and crit in pvp. Yet again, its not what you are asking for.
Ok then yes im talking about pvp and a flat dmg % would be good most classes are now bursting on 1 minute windows now anyway
Might is 1 min without.
I just checked its 2 min on wowhead talent calculator
Then its wrong, taking might reduces its CD to 1 min
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