Outlaw still needs a buff @Blizzard. Please do something about the PvP situation. It’s on the “unranked” (trash) tier list.
Why play Outlaw when you can reroll into fotm classes/specs?
(crying in useless)
Edit: I will gladly give away gouge and shorter blind for some better burst
(and roll the bones, that’s whack)
There are certain specs that will never work in pvp and thats fine.
I think having pve and pvp specs is a good idea for balance reasons.
I strongly disagree.
A multi million dollar company surely can make all specs at least viable
No… What?
Then outlaw needs to be totally different in pvp and pve.
three specs in unranked/trashtier: assa, outlaw and fury.
all have in common they have some very viable options in sub and arms.
making the real trashtier both dk specs + havoc.
Yeah but I don’t want to play sub. I want to play outlaw and I want it to be viable at least. I don’t need it to be op. Just playable.
fotm-heroes want to keep trashtierspecs down. especially when whole class is trashtier like dk and dh. “dk is fine” said the arms/ret/ww/sub/fmage/boomie.
i feel ya. but atleast respeccing is better then rerolling (for most atlest)
Blizzard can already buff/nerf specific abilities in only pvp/pve content. And with the addition of honor talents theres no excuse for certain specs to suck in certain content for entire expansions.
Well…someone said assassination is bad…
Well, assassination is very good, but sub currently is stronger and if you have 3 dps in a class , people will just play what’s strongest.
As for outlaw…if it was better than sub , it would be far into OP territory…
It needs buff, but it will play second fiddle until sub is nerfed…or just get outdated…
Second fiddle is fine, it would be nice to have Outlaw in B tier at least (looking at that list). So playable, but far from op or S tier. Come on Blizz you can make this change it wouldn’t kill you to make a few nice adjustments just for PvP. It’s different modifiers than in PvE so mplus wouldn’t be affected.
yet still they make pve-intended nerfs affecting pvp aswell. unholy were already weak in pvp when they nerfed mastery for pve but also for pvp.
Outlaw rogue should always get a max dice roll vs players… that would fix most problems.
Outlaw is PVE spec, and therefore dont need buffs in PVP. If you wanna play PVP rogue, go for subtlety.
This has got to be the most narrow-minded and idiotic response I have read on the forums all day. Congrats!
Why? Can you argument please?
I want to pvp on any spec.
I myself am not asking for arena viability but classes that requires alot of setup need to have some change in pvp… it takes outlaw rogue both luck and 30 seconds to do the same damage as a ret;(
Yes, i agree with outlaw being bad in pvp. But he is awesome spec in PVE, and subtlety is awesome in PVP and ok in PVE. None can be best in everything. It would make biggest unbalance possible if one spec would be good in everything (not wanna talk about moonkin).
What Blizzard did to outlaw after BFA is a war crime, especially the massacre of BTE, that was the most fun and nice mechanic this class had. Not to mention roll the bones not being a finisher and SND being mandatory button to press.