Bug. nullifying shroud is not working vs rogues

so it works against warriors and other melee classes who stun me but a rogue? no he can sap, kidney and blind me, its not a magical thing it says ALL full lose of control effect…

Thats kinda a good thing though. I feel like its good it only works against “damage” cc like Fear or Stuns.

it says all loss of controll , if what a rogue does to you is not lose control of your character i dont know what is?

It could be coded like that so it doesnt work on these so they cant just freely remove it with sap spam, which is, again, in my eyes, a good thing.

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It’s not because it gives some classes an advantage over others and if there is any class that don’t need such an advantage, it’s rogue!

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And if it says “all” it should be all

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i found out why it wasnt working, they can LITERALLY just sit in stealth and use sap on me over and over till its gone… and proc all , so i gotta use it after they open

well that explains it for sap, what about blind you mentioned?

It makes sense cause Rogues dont get in combat when they sap.

So I guess it works against blind too then huh?

Advantage - Rogue new burst CD classified as bleed 2 min CD. Guess what Evoker can remove all bleeds form themselves or party/raid member on 1 min CD so you will never burst anyone unless Evoker is cross CCd. Speaking of hard counters.

Saying that one honor talent can be countered by Sap spam (which requires Evoker to not being in combat BTW) counts as advantage is kinda ridiculus. It’s like complaining that reverse magic does not works against Warriors. (=

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Okay, but there is this one thing I don’t understand. If it isn’t an advantage, why would you mind if they remove that not being an advantage or feeling pressured to bring up some weird arguments that reverse magic doesn’t work versus physical effects? :wink:

Don’t get me wrong, Evoker is very broken because of their cc immunity. But when this one class has an advantage over other classes, that their cc doesn’t count for some reason, even though the class has a lot more cc than most other classes and the buff clearly states it will hinder any cc effect, no matter what school, it is a bug that should be fixed, right?

Blizzard and wording are two words that never do well together. Wording in wow means literally nothing. However at this point, you cant know if its intended or just a bug and most likely we will not know for a very long time.

It working as intended - it stops 3 incoming loss of control effects. It lasts 30 second so you want to have it during combat before it falls off by itself (or sapped off by Rogues). It also can be spellstolen by Mages or purged. It’s situational honor talent that people change depending on their opponents at the start of the match.

I see no problem if some honor talents works better against one class then the other. I don’t pick Disarm against Lock or Mage surprise, surprise.

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Dont mind Lillydot, guy is 1.8 hot takes in a Nutshell. :lizard:

Seems to be working like intended.

However, I have a bigger issue with Nullifying Shroud as a spell in general. It promotes degenerate gameplay where people can’t counter you.

…and speaking of hard counters. Not a fan of Evokers having Cauterizing Flame bleed removal.
Suffering a full expansion with Kyrian potions wasn’t enough? Want to ruin the next expac as well?

What you are talking about is 3 saps to remove it. The guy who openend the thread was talking about that it bypasses the effect, even with kidney and blind, as they wouldn’t count as cc.

As if he would sit in cc with nullifying shroud still running as buff.

I don’t know if it does or not, I don’t play Evoker to test it, but when it does it must be considered as bug!

I don’t know if an Evoker/DH player, who got Glad once in SL season 2 just to be Rival after again, should risk a fat lip with such a statement. It could backfire quite fast. :slight_smile:

You spelled “feature” wrong :smiley:

Yeah but he’s wrong. I have played with and against Evoker, and I have to blow Gouge and Meld/Vanish to cheap shot it off if I want it done otherwise he immunes my CC as intended (Blind/Kidney/Gouge).

He may just have not paid attention to the effect being removed, and again because a Rogue was there, insta cry thread instead of trying to understand what happened.

Sad.

There was absolutely no reason for me to push after getting the Gladiator Mount apart from Transmog. I mean you can even see how many Games I played in each of these seasons, since its still listed. :rofl:

Gotta keep hiding behind Classic Characters to deliver those 1.8 in depth hot class balance takes though. :skull:

Yes you can do that with intervene as well or even ward.
Same as when somebody trinket a sap, you can spam it and resap instantly