Bursting affix in Everbloom is unreasonable

literally cant even play the game without getting at least 6 stacks of bursting in there every trash pack, absolutely awful place

matter of fact, to make it more fair, you should make it so the sic bats in black rook hold also apply bursting

6 Likes

this is extremely accurate. Its absolutely insane

2 Likes

Ha you considered not killing everything at the same time?

1 Like

Have you considered not being disingenuous?

2 Likes

Nothing at all disingenuous about what I said.

The whole point of the affix is to apply intelligence to the packs that you are engaging. This means not killing them all at once.

If you can’t do that then keep dying and whining, the solution is a simple one and its in the players hands.

and do you ever had intelligent dps players in your group?
3 at once for that matter?
I didn’t at least

1 Like

You have to high expectations from the dps. You should tone it down a notch.

They will learn when they die every other pack. You can not say “dps are stupid so do not give them any responsibility”.

after they wiped 3 times to bursting:
“this group is crap, the healer is bad, you are all apes” - leaves group
→ learned nothing, never take responsibility. Goes to forum cries that bursting sucks.

true story

1 Like

Yeah so also remove all interruptable casts since they wipe groups.

I actually tanked this last night it is hilarious.

Im never in danger from bursting, told the healer to dispel themselves and proceeded to watch the dps murder themselves again and again and again.

2 Likes

there are usually no interruptable casts that wipe the group that the tank or healer cannot cover at the moment. So yeah blizz did that already

it is good to do, but it will mostly lead to a dead key or a leaver and next key you have the same thing again.

Whats the alternative? The healer lets themself die?

I wasn’t overpulling, its just packs have that many lashers in them. If the key dies or there is a leaver thats fine they can keep leaving key after key after key. They’ll eventually quit or git gud.

The lashers are mostly weak AoE fodder and I had to check twice to confirm they were actually elite. On any non-Bursting week, pulling a hundred lashers would be fine.

This is just a flashback to Legion days of affixes, where pathetic mobs couldn’t just be mowed down because they still caused affixes at full strength. Do not like.

1 Like

well thats why i said its good but unfortunately will lso ultimately hurt yourself, which sucks.

I find it brutal, but not as brutal. Here are my suggestions.

Sometimes, wiping is actually more efficient than not. First big group next to the door for example. You demolish it, you will get 12-15 stacks (no chance to survive that) and you just wipe. The healers job there is to make sure the DPS survive long enough to kill the whole group. Still worth it.

Other packs you just have to prepare and use a CD. In that case, the worst the DDs can do is not kill them all at once. Its annoying to get 6 stacks, heal through them like a champ only to have 1 plant die at the end and refresh the stacks to 7.

Therefore, as a healer: Just check the overall health of the pack. If you see a lot of low health ones, have a trigger finger ready to pop a CD and use it before the damage comes in. So you dont waste 1 GCD poping a CD.

As a DD: If you see your healer is doing this, its absolutely mandatory to avoid refreshing the dot. Its the most annoying thing: To pop a CD, and then having to pop a second one. Back to back for that 1 plant that was left at 1%. If you mow down plants, do it properly. Leave none behind. :slight_smile:

Know your healer CDs. Some healers are weaker than others in Bursting. You HAVE to know things like: If you see Spirit Link totem, walk into the zone. Thinks like that.

If you can off-heal in any way, do it. Spam whatever flash heal you have on yourself. That helps a lot believe it or not.

As a Tank: Have a weak aura that sais what CDs your healer has. In my case for example, if my tank sees I have Spirit Link totem, he knows that he can pull a 20 pack pull and we can survive 20 dots. No problem. On the flip-side, if you see your healer has 0 CDs available, DONT pull that 8 plant pack. Pull that 1 patrol dude you were gonna do anyways. Just switch the order.

Nothing disingenuous about expecting players to help deal with the affix, whether that means to stop damaging for a little while or helping off-heal.

Pug groups having to learn this lesson repeatedly is their fault, not the affix.

You don’t blame the door for being put there when you keep crashing into it. When you can so easily push/pull it open. As a crude example.

I had a similar problem in ToTT. The warrior simply couldn’t hold off the button mashing for long enough to let stacks drop, and then looked round wondering why everyone was dead. It was kind of funny.

The players I feel sorry for are the healers who feel like it’s their responsibility to keep everyone alive.

3 stacks below 50 % hp way too much. No matter which dungeon!

they see green circle and run away but always stay in red circle to die kek