Ah right it is because of how you responded to this quote here from Syelia that I assumed you was antagonized against;
It sounded like your character was antagonized against which is why I had assumed it was a negative / antagonistic interaction and exchange between the groups that remain around Silvermoon to date.
All good though, I’m glad that you feel like it was actually the opposite and a warm reception albeit lukewarm due to a lack at points of responsiveness.
People still do PvP?
You must be masochistic because, PvP hasn’t been the same since WoD smh.
Also Belf purge is still viable if you’re against the right comps
Nah, not really for the most part, only briefly yesterday, which prompted the question, it was a standalone so far nonetheless though ^^ Within this thread, the antagony was somewhat derived from the assumption of me having attempted to play a Quel within Silvermoon, which was an assumption that never really actually took place xddd
And I was still wondering about the grander scheme of things, not just the concrete manifestation of my specific case ^^
You don’t want to know a serious data-based answer to that… xd
And you absolutely don’t want to know a serious answer from a semi-casual’s perspective to that XD
An additional example being (depending on how canon you perceive SoD’s additions to be, even though some of it jiggles about with things we know happened) the Priests of Horde and Alliance. Wherein Priests from both factions are, after some pre-agreements, given an ambassadorial ring representing their status as both a Priest and temporary ambassador who is given entrance to the opposing faction’s city to deliver medical supplies during the on-ongoing Classic hostilities between Alliance and Horde and is then told to leave once again.
This is honestly such an interesting thing to me, to be honest. When I had the talk with the guy yesterday, a part of the reason why they opposed the idea of the paperwork thing would be that the elligibility to procure such documentation would somehow also make me more likely to godemote due to the might of the character, and to that I was just completely flabbergasted as to what I’d just been told. That’s what promoted the question about how frequently do people think of their own character as one of those who “saw the main story unfold firsthand”, kinda like the armada, because I could understand if to a farmer a hero would be threatening, but this guy was effectively Silvermoon army, so it made it not only hard to understand how they could have not been up to date, but also the godemote remark was just completely uncalled for and entirely unprompted, as we did not even engage in any fight. Idk, it was weird. I would expect it to be the player’s own diligence to not godemote, and that ny godemoting you would inherently take away from the fun for all parties, so like, why should I even be inclined to do that.
At that point I got a serious flashback as if I were having a PvP discussion, because the elitist tone and very harsh textbook cohesion just made it feel extremely unwelcoming, just like PvPers make PvP unwelcoming to new players.
(And nope, I ain’t gonna mention names or point fingers - I believe the player acted upon their belief and more experience, I cannot blame them for that stance, it was just what it was.)
It’s not unheard of, to be honest. Shout-out to yesteryear and the token kor’kron roleplayer stomping around Silvermoon with his paperwork from Garrosh to do what he will to the “knife eared girlie scum”.
I don’t really blame people for having a reflex against ‘documentation’. But ultimately, as said above, i think Arathi lounging around Silvermoon might be a touch premature.
It’s hardly a cardinal sin, but personally? I’d err on the side of seeing how TWW goes or Midnight. I imagine we’ll get some sneak peaks into a redesigned Silvermoon sooner rather than later.
Yeah that’s fine, I do take it that the headcanon which would be needed for my justification, while not completely heretical, could still easily be frowned upon the second one would be opposed to anything unwritten. I was just more taken aback by them making it sound like they would be the “farmers”, and it somewhat sounded as if there was a clear bias against anyone treating their char as if they actively participated in the recent happening, and to throw in the godemoting remark on top of that was just completely out of the bucket and I just didn’t know where that came from.
(What do I know, maybe I’m delusional to think that just because a character would have great things achieved, they would still be killable, and that it should be in their own interest to allow non-OP, reasonable interaction)
I think it’s safer that people start roleplaying Arathi when they can at least tell the name of their Emperor and what the Empire is actually like and not just randos from Hallowfall who should be hyperfocused on Khaz Algar, Beledar and their crusade instead of waltzing over to the Eastern Kingdoms for slice of life RP.
I would like to imagine there is a reason why it hasn’t been yet mentioned within Mereldar, or could imagine the OG empire wanting that to be kept a secret, or in my character’s case prefer not to mention, but yeah, headcanon
While I often engage in “following lore, not following lore” we need to remember the gameboard is shared among all players and is set in the WoW universe. At the end it’s a multiplayer game with live writing at the center of its gameplay.
And since it’s a multiplayer game, it also means people will cheat and the way most do is by giving themselves power through various means (titles, lands, money, authority etc…) to skew the gameboard in their favor.
You’re best buddy with Anduin on a daily basis? Cheating.
You’re a dracthyr the size of a house to be more powerful? Cheating.
You’re a civilian Man’ari in Stormwind and no one can say anything about it? Cheating.
Cheating in that sense means those player are purposely nuking the tacit rules of fairness for their own personal gain, which often ruins immersion for others and creates an imbalance on the gameboard. This is also why they act so defensively when called out, because they are cheating and they know it. Other players are simply unable to handle them therefore it starts a war of who ignores the best.
It’s the reason why I wouldn’t bother with Hero vs Peasant. I’d say if someone decides to play a controversial character, it should be observed for who they are doing it. I’d totally shake hand with Anduin’s best buddy if I know the character is made to give some life in the city and not to boss people around for clout. I’d totally play with Horde Ambassadors if I knew they aren’t just a cheap “I’ve got papers”.
That’s how I see it. I’m also surprised I haven’t read about cheaters on RP, because they exist and they absolutely ruin the fun.
Yeah I know about Thoradin, we just don’t have anything else to go by as it’s all just an enigma so far
I’d love it if that was the consensus, though that would be asking too much, understandably so. I can’t but agree, and that’s why I imagine I’ve only very scarcely come across some negative experiences, as I would like to imagine the character is not obtrusive and am trying my hardest to make it that way.
As true as this might be, this lore isn’t common knowledge, so playing a survivor who talks about all of the times that Jaina visited their family business back on Theramore might raise a few eyebrows. It might even start a few OOC conversations about why your character knows Jaina on a personal basis.
Though there’s an adequate answer for this, it’s something that might throw some people off and that you’re better off not mentioning, much like the canonicity of the Shadowlands and other aspects of the Warcraft setting that people don’t often want to acknowledge when roleplaying.
Why of course, anyone can be a Hero of Azeroth, if they don the golden lion and fight for the southern kingdom.
But, judging from the tint of your eye and the shade of your backdrop, you seem more keen to play a villain!
Jokes aside, I agree with the assessment that it might be a bit too early for this character. I remember when TWW first released, I immediately wanted to play an Arathi, so I sat down to make the character and realised that I just can’t. I know literally nothing about where he’d be from, so his backstory would just be a giant question mark. And if you don’t know where you’re coming from, how can you know where you’re going?
The son has made it his mission on behalf of his father to attempt to help him get back to the High Home, and since his father has always wished to go back rather than serve the empire, the son was somewhat indoctrined by that and as a result neither of them share the usual Arathi “sacred flame zealotry”, which however, naturally, they cannot really be too vocal about, within Mereldar at least.
But yeah, I get what you are getting at, it’s just not possible without some headcanon, hoping you hit the needle on the head ^^
Justicar is a hero. He’s been fighting the good fight for decades now, from Lordaeron to Stormwind, Northrend and beyond.
Known to the alliance? Not in any larger circles, mainly amongst friends, those he’s helped and colleagues who he would consider to be heroes, maybe.
Would he welcome in Orgrimmar, Silvermoon or any other horde settlement, no of course not he’s human, and they’d kill him. He’d only ever consider going to such places in the most desperate of circumstances and only if he kept out of sight.
Claiming diplomatic documents and such is problematic as it implies you’ve got a very high level of contact with alliance or horde leaders. In times of Cold War (which is pretty much the closest comparison of Horde/Alliance relations at the moment) there would be no such thing as handing out diplomatic papers for trivial issues.
One thing I don’t understand personally though is how would Silvermoon differentiate a high-elf/void-elf from a blood-elf considering the fel is wearing off and surely not every single blood elf needed to suck from the fel’s teat?
In lore, there is no difference between high and blood elves. Most blood elves didn’t even suck Fel, they were slightly transformed by the Fel “radiation” from the crystals around Quel’Thalas that Kael’thas sent home from Outland and had no idea what was in them (similarly, Allerian high elves were transformed by Fel energies of Outland to have green eyes too, although in-game they have blue eyes) and even those might nowadays have blue or gold eyes.
However, I think it’s realistic to assume that every high elf’s affiliation is known by their relatives or former friends and it’s just a question of time before someone recognizes them and starts asking questions. Even if it wasn’t known or everyone they knew was dead, there would have to be some pretty clever backstory for why this “blood elf” hasn’t been seen in QT in the last 20 years and just reappeared out of the blue (heh).
That’s perfectly understandable, and I would imagine a state like Silvermoon potentially even have some form of identification card/papers/magic macguffin as well. But at a casual observation for people just visiting though?
I guess it’s like a lot of issues I have with gatekeeping, most of them come down to reason and the application. There just isn’t a one-size fits all standard that should apply. Personally speaking for example I can see man’ari in Stormwind and high elves in Silvermoon as long as it’s for a limited period and isn’t exaggerated and pushed to the forefront of an interaction.
Right now Keld’s still getting around the shock of seeing several 15 foot tall Dracthyr strolling around Stormwind to take too much notice of other races though!
