it has highest dmg in the game 
Once get the new synergy from missile and barrage rolling its just missile - barrage - missile - barrage…
i mean, it is being as filler as of now… its like chaosbolt becomes your filler spell suddently…
what even is “filler spells” bro im casting 2 seconds, i shouldn’t do less dmg than an instant cast
yes, i play m+ as arcane, and 80% of the run is you hitting jackpots and arcane barrage for aoe cleave and proc orbs out of thin air… that is not how it should work and do dmg in pvp tho, just because everything in m+ needs to be aoe cleaved it doesn’t mean your ST has to be crippled in 10 cds all at the same time where if u are shut down all your dmg is off
problem always the same, in pve u don’t get interrupted or cc nearly as much as pvp where if u get surge off and u have youir 10 seconds to shine u get stun into silence into root solar or smth and u r back to 600k arcane blasts
my point was and stil is, instant cast dealing more than casted spells is not a good design…
yeah game designe is utter garbage but ion is too biased, to realize it
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Its like slam, just something you hardly never press, except it has use with spark but most play high voltage for endless arcane missile - barrage once get it rolling. Spark is for quick burst and it need blast to activate.
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i miss hybrid healing so much in 2s… i generally miss the feeling of double dps in 2s was another story tbh
yes. and it argue while it does feel fluid and okay in pve, in pvp is not a good design
when u r in pve just barrage with 4 stacks, u get orb procs endlessly, if not u get intuition, if not, arcane missiles
w/e u magi with or without surge you throw ONE arcane blast and u move on back to barrage spam and when no stacks and no intuition u missiles, and if not missiles u orb and barrage again, and if u don’t have any of these its either a good time to shifting power or throw a few arcane explosions…
why is arcane blast even tho its filler being treated as a complete useless spell… the conditions to cast it are basically 0… even arcane explosion which does less dmg gives u stack fasters and allows u to go back to barrage and if u r lucky u get missiles…
and yet, arcane blast has been one of the strongest and core spells of arcane for more than a decade… it was strong in all expansions except bfa sl and right now… half of dragonflight it was still hitting good before it was nerfed … am i wrong to expect arcane to not be literally frost mage but replace frozen orb with arcane orb, barrage with ice lance and missiles with flurry…? its a literal reskin of frost but it doesn’t perma slows or has 2 block and has more risk of casting…
casted spells should just hit stronger…
if conflagrate was hitting harder than chaosbolt im sure destros would agree with me…
Because you get 2 instant arcane blasts on your burst window and its easy to sit back 40 yards and spam if it was hitting over 1 million you would not want to play the game because you would just spam it inbetween the rest of your instant damage.
Ice lance hits 1 million yes but the playstyle of it been an instant cast makes it so mages play in and actually go for sheeps if frostfire bolt was doing more damage than ice lance then frost mage would just sit back 40 yards even in veins.
surely you dont think it would be ok to be spamming 1-1.5 million arcane blasts and then your partner lands some cc and you turn to your instant burst and finish them off no meta has ever been good when casters are given strong casted spells because we would be back in a triangle meta just look at frost mage in s3 shadowlands and s1 TWW
There is too many buffs that increase haste for them to hit hard the same with chaos bolt it used to work in the past because it actually was a long cast and meele had less mobility you cant keep current cast times and it hitting 5-6 million because then you can just run double destro and one of them is likely to get them off.
The spell still hits hard its just not a free win for been able to hard cast it in older expansions you would stack high mastery and have low haste for it to hit hard arcane mages would also have to worry about how much mana they had for it to do even more damage all of this has been removed and given more haste it cant hit the same.
Also arcane explosion can eat a clearcasting proc so you dont want to be pressing it when its so easy to get stacks with arcane orb and the barrage procs.
Most destro players enjoyed playing with instants during dragonflight when portals were strong its the way forward it was not fun casters been able to get these long casts off when they double stacked wizards atleast we are in a meele/caster/healer meta which is better for the game some classes just need some serious tuning.
Arcane plays nothing like frost and has always been a PVE spec its only ever been really strong when it is either immortal with mobility or does insane on use damage arcane did not even get serious playtime untill around legion it was always a meme spec to cheese one shot people.
And if you notice all the times arcane has been strong its in metas where CC did not matter and it was super damp.
u get 2 instants with 15% dmg nerf
how many free icelance we get during burst frozen orb and flurry and so on…? idk what your point is rly… its easy to sit back and spam blast, but it isn’t to spam something that hits harder and is instant cast…?
the instant damage that is done is not enough to kill somebody without cc/icewall and a stun ice lances are hitting 1million on 11-13 million hp pools thats 13 needed to land a kill or a cometstorm inside a stun will do a lot also.
because when mage have instant casts the true skill of the class comes out which is hardcasting polymorphs and landing CC on multiple people while avoiding damage with mobility if you make the class hardcast this playstyle becomes useless and the new playstyle is sit back 40 yards use your mobility to run away and do damage and only damage maybe land a blink CS if the healer hardcasts yes it is harder to use the first playstyle.
i never claimed ice lance was hitting too hard, im claiming AB hits lower… and is a casted spell, i was just making an example of how instant casts were often stronger, same on my disc priest, or how barrrage is stronger than AB and its weird considering the risk of casting involved that instant casts are stronger and better…
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