hi, there’s a person in wotlk classic that’s manuplating ah with same materials every night. they do the undercut race and then if they can’t sell the put a bulk of that item at the lowest price possible & block all the sales that would give profits to others. it’s not a one time thing, is there a way to report this person or is it allowed ?
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right now you can’t sell any enchants on this realm because one person has bulks in every one of them with 1-2 gold profits, they probably bought mats in bulk & do this to sell a lot of them while they’re offline. this is manuplating the AH but idk if it’s against ToS or not
To answer that specifically: can you report them? Yes you can.
I don’t have a definitive answer as to whether that person may or may not be breaking any rules regarding the TOS.
However, what I do know is when you report it a Game Master should review the situation in accordance with policy and make a decision on it. That’s all there is to it really, your report will either be acted upon or not.
If you think it breaks the rules report it. You’re not wrong doing yourself by doing that, it’s the Game Master’s job to decide whether your report is upheld or not.
Sorry but why would this be against TOS? This person is just doing good business by selling lower than the competition. There’s nothing wrong or bad about that unless he’s using bots to do it.
i don’t think it breaks any specific rule but manuplates the auction hosue . only he can sell enchants , that’s not a clever business move he literally blocks others chance with 50 stacks at the lowest price .
there’s no competition tho, he leaves 50 of the same enchants on every profitable enchant at the lowest price so you either have to make & sell enchant to lose money or you don’t do it at all. and he does it by cutting it with big numbers like for example there was 50g profit in one enchant and he puts 40x of it at 2g profit when he goes offline
The auction house is a free marketplace, and players are free to use it however they want.
If someone sells 40 items at 2 gold a piece when you believe that the item is worth 50 or more, you can always buy their items, and resell them yourself.
If they add more, or if these items don’t sell after buying them, then it means that your price probably wasn’t right to begin with (if there’s more supply than demand, the price naturally drops).
sorry but i know how it works. if someone cuts every profit on most enchants when they log off , that’s their way of manuplating the auction house. it’s not about whether if i buy their bulk or not it’s about them shutting down the competition when they’re not there. seems like blizzard has no issues with players abusing its systems tho it’s already obvious with the bots on ah and open world. disappointed but at least got my answer, thanks .
During Shadowlands in retail I actually moved 10 Characters to a different server because of 1 single player like this dominating the Auction house.
However, I do feel that the Region-Wide AH and new Profession system has done alot to reduce the amount of damage these players do. However they do still exist in Retail, but they tend to work on smaller markets… at the moment.
Unfortunately the player in question isn’t cheating, they’re just playing the game. Unfortunately it is having a negative affect on other players experience and enjoyment of the game. I do believe that Blizz should address it, but your guesses are as good as mine as to how they do it, fairly.
this issue is on wotlk where thing are way … primal unfortunately, even addons bug all the time .
why would i stop the competition ? 10 different enchants that give profit and suddenly none of them gives any profit and when you check there’s a guy cutting it to the point that would make it barely even or 2-3 g profit for the enchant i made for 300g because they’re logging off. why would i butcher the game economy like this ? i do the undercutting race which is fine and fun. that’s called manuplation and is no different than using a bot , either way makes it impossible for others to compete.
But that doesn’t sound like he’s doing anything wrong… well against the rules.
There is nothing in the rules that states “you can only use the Auction house if you want to make a big profit”. This guy might just want to shift some old stock on the cheap.
If they’re taking the time and effort to create more items than you can, and adjust their price to make more profit than you do, then this is simply the law of supply and demand.
You are absolutely free to do the same to them by purchasing their items and selling them at a higher price (but again, if they or someone else is able to supply the AH with more items than you can resell them, the price is going to tank).
they block others to compete that’s the issue . i don’t know how clearer i can be about this. this isn’t about one price or the profit. they prevent other players from actively selling items on ah . they don’t let anyone else sell the same product on ah and if you think this is okay you might as well let bots rule the AH too, that does the same .
yes but at the end of the day what they do & using ah bots have the same outcome. preventing other players to participate . one is against tos and the other one isn’t
They’re not blocking you from selling your items, or from choosing the price at which you’re selling them. They’re competing with you on an open marketplace, same as everyone else.
Using bots would be against our rules, and can lead to account suspensions. If you believe that they’re using third party programs (or bots), then you can absolutely report them.
If they’re simply spending more time and efforts to create more items, that they manually (including using addons) sell at a lower price, this isn’t against our rules.
thanks for the answer. good to know that blizzard doesn’t care about the player experience until 3rd party programmes being involved even tho the outcome is the same. there’s absolutely no way i can tell they’re using bots or not so i will report them and let the gms take a look. we can consider this as solved. thanks for your time
I’m not sure you seem to understand, that person is not breaking the rules in any way.
They might be using mats that cost them nothing so can sell for that price and still make a nice profit. If you buy the mats to make the item then sell it and cannot sell it for the same price at a profit, then you need make something else.
It’s not your right to make a profit on all the items you sell.
it’s not what i expect either. you guys seem to having a hard time understanding that one person i blocking an entire realm from trading certain items . not a one time thing , not something that they do as undercut racing. i see that it’s not against tos but the outcome from it is the same as AH bots so let’s just let people use them as well
