Because it’s pinnacle endgame content for the best players.
If you want to raid there, get better and get people with the same goals to do so.
Certain things are for certain levels of skill. Or do you also demand that you should be allowed as “common man” into the WM Football league because you can kick a ball with your child together in the backyard?
Tbf, the group lock for Mythic raids is one of the reasons why people don’t pug. If you could play Mythic raids with any random group, even if you already defeated a boss already, more people would actually brute-force try it.
Nah more like he is talking about mythic id restriction. As someone raiding mythic every patch and at least see the endboss and maybe CE this is what i’ve been asking since they removed the raid id restrictions.
Mythic id is doing nothing but gatekeeping. Most stuff is pugable if at least half of the group has enough patience but no one really wants to ruin their lockout by joining a progress pug with 3 boss down which drops something they need or fills their vault.
Removing unique id eliminates those and probably will make more people raid mythic and kill more bosses.
I see nothing negative about this sentence sorry. More people experiencing the content , less gatekeeping. Who cares if people gonna brute force first 3-4 bosses or not. In fact its already happening with pugs but when someone leaves they cant replace cuz this lockout exists.
And from my experience, the type of people in these guilds are often not people I’d want to associate with. As proven by the implosion of a certain guild on my realm.
I’m one of those that doesn’t believe in removing the ID lockout for mythic.
From my stand point, pug groups have become so chaotic, fractured very often even more restrictive than any guild and almost no co-ordination.
All you got to do is look at a new tier when it opens, people hop into normal or heroic and the split second the group wipes they leave shouting that and screaming that people are useless.
Then you have the people making the groups wanting Curve to do normal, very frequently before they themselves have even cleared normal let alone heroic.
The non stop replacing people after each boss is something thats also infuriating.
And this is simply the tip of the iceberg.
For me having a guild and set raid group for that mythic prog gives me that set stability, and I know that I can count on those people to be there (off course allowing for the odd real life events to trip you up).
One change I do think would help though (and I have been saying this for some time) is to bring back the 10 man option.
Typical player response, calls a guy lazy who might have a job/kids/other time commitments. Im in the same boat as the OP and its not laziness at all, some people have a RL outside of WoW especially full time dads aka me.
Okay he has other things he has to do, then he doesn’t have the time, totally fine and nothing wrong with that. But if you don’t have time to commit then you don’t have what is needed, simple as that.
There is a minimum amount of effort needed to mythic raid, if he can’t reacch that minimum, which btw most players can’t reach, for whatever reason then he can’t do it.
Simple as that, if he wants pve content that’s available when he logs in, m+.
If he wants pve content specifically raid then you can pug all the way to heroic.
But don’t expect the game to adapt to having less time more then it already has, the game already is insanely flexible. The only reason I don’t see the need for this is because literally everthing but this is so flexible you can do it whenever, leave the one thing be please. Not everything needs to compensate your exact lifestyle and goals, regardless of why you can’t. Sucks but it is what it is.
Yeah but I want to be gladiator, but I simply don’t have the skills or time able to learn the skills, does that mean that the others players should compensate me?
Answer is no, and that sucks, but that’s just how things work if you don’t want to ruin it for others or change something in a way others didn’t ask for. Especially since he isn’t the demographic that Mythics are made for apperantly.
Also, you are only partly correct on
He has purchased the game, that comes with access to the raid, which he has. He has the fully ability to go in and try, what he is asking for is a change to the game he paid for from the developers, totally different thing.
There are 3 day guilds that clear raids in top 50, and there are also 3 day guilds that struggle to even clear the raid before the tier ends, while some fail completely. Time is far from the only factor.
A 10 man mythic difficulty would allow a lot of heroic guilds to participate in this content. Many guilds have 10 good players but not 20 and this would extend their season.
It’s not about difficulty, it’s about gear which can only be obtained in Mythic Raids.
I think players should obviously be rewarded for doing difficult content; I also think players should be rewarded similarly for being subbed and actively playing the game.
You get rewarded with the best gear faster for doing difficult content, which would be the only difference.
The whole point is: that everyone who plays World of Warcraft has an enjoyable experience.
If you can’t progress your character, it’s not a fun experience.
Oh I have bad news for you my sweet summer child xD .
Being able to clear mythic raid has nothing to do with skill. It is just a marathon of commitment, study, and patience. Generally as long as you can commit to a 2 day raiding schedule and be updated on your class and boss tactics, then there is no reason to not take CE.
Truthfully only players that matter and need some serious skills, are the officers and leaders of mythic groups. Those guys are the ones that make or break a group, and how they can manage the rest of the players.
But for the OP, they are making mythic raiding more accessible next expansion. Cross realm and cross faction from day 1. The only thing they cannot do is change how the lockout work.
Although this won’t make a difference for players that want to pug mythic, since what kill those pugs is wipes on top of wipes, something that is expected in guild groups.
Why are they so adamament about keeping this outdated lockout system, ud think blizzard of people who are known for putting business first playeres second would jump at the idea of giving their consumers access to more content for the sake of… i dont even know anymore… classic pride?.. it just doesnt fit WoWs current motif of making everything else more accessible.
