Can Void/Shadow be good?

Hello Friends,

Im not a lore specialist but can Void/Shadow be good from lorewise perspective? In the same way as light can be evil (Ilidian cut scene and Dreanor Orcs quest)?

Thanks and take care in these diffcult tims

The current narrative goes along the lines of turning cosmic energies into neutral forces of the universe.

None are really good or bad, but can be wielded to do both good or evil deeds.
The energies themselves can’t be tagged in either way. Only their users.

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Since we have damaging holy spells and healing shadow spells, I suppose the answer is clear: power is power, the wielder decides if it’s good or bad.

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The Void itself is similar to the Light in that it’s nothing more than a source of power, which can be used for good and evil depending on the user. However, the problem with it comes in the form of the Void Lords who will whisper into your ear and try to drive you mad in one way or another. So you need special training or incredible willpower to withstand the whispers for a longer period of time. (Something which will never happen to the void elves of all people, because if it does happen their entire position within the Alliance is compromised.)

The Light meanwhile can turn its followers into zealots, though this is seemingly a bit more difficult and requires longer exposure from fanatical naaru, and even then it’s not guaranteed to work. After all Turalyon still worked together with Illidan after being talked to by Velen even after being a servant for Xe’ra for thousand years.

Thank you for all answers :slight_smile:
Now I have to decide to play priest or shammy :slight_smile:

The Light does require good intentions, though. No matter how fanatic, the users of the Light always believe they are doing the right thing. That requirement makes a difference. You can be wrong about morality, but it’s questionable if you can be a good person without wanting to be moral. And that’s the pool the Light recruits from.

The void on the other hand, as stated above, directly drives its users to mandness and moral nihilism. The void user can only really be a good person as far as he resists it.

I don’t think Blizzard ever claimed this anywhere. For now we only know that zealous Naaru exist. And Blizz devs already stated that Naaru can have different goals and approaches, so it certainly is not a hint that the Light is in itself a corruptive force, like you seem to be stating. Or did I miss something?

As far as I know, every user of the void has to deal with the void whispers, while we have no hint of the use of Light itself manipulating its users.

It can for sure when Ilidan killed Naaru eyes of Turalyon changed from gold to bronze. Even Ilidan says “your faith blinded you”. Maybe there are more examples of such cases.

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pretty much, it all comes down to the user, be it light, shadow/void, fel, arcane, elemental, it all comed down to can the user resist the whisper, temptations, or is the user already insane long before.

someone who is evil will be evil, where someone who is good whit bad will power will succumb to the forces.

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Just like previous posters said, void like any energy is not bad in itself, it’s like a knife, depends what you use it for.

Both seem to try to dominate and they complement each other. There should be a balance between them. Just like Alleria said, you can’t have shadow without light and viceversa.

However it seems as the void is more “evilish” than the light. Most of the whispers are not really the “go heal that poor fellow” kind of… if you know what I mean.

Which is really boring. I suppose WoW has a very wishwashy magic system which leaves a lot of room for interpretation. In my opinion, if you’re going to have a loose magic system it’s better to keep it simple and stick to familiar connotations. Shadow magic? Probably evil and corruptive in some way. Light magic? Probably good. Nature magic? Also good. Arcane magic? Neutral, but volatile, perhaps.

It might be somewhat cliché to stick with these themes, but I prefer cliché over whatever it is we got in that Mag’har recruitment mission. Garrosh the bad boy is back and he’s more sparkly than ever! Sigh… I mean, one could argue that it’s more original but originality doesn’t make garbage smell any better.

It widens the scope of Blizzards writing, as it enables them with a lazy route in order to create characters/factions that delve on such energies without being restricted by some additional defining traits regarding what said said energies entail.

In short, that allowed them to create stuff like the Void Elves, and still leave the Alliance reputation untarnished.
The upcoming expansion will delve on the “positives” of Necromancy (via Maldraxxus and/or Revenreth), and the expansion after that will probably showcase Evil light users to balance it out.

I’m honestly pretty neutral to it all. It’s not as if we didn’t have already guys that wielded nasty powers for the “greater good” (Warlocks, DKs, DHs…). Or even entire races (Forsaken, and to a lesser extent, Orcs).

Light is genesis
Void is entropy.

Anti-life is evil, there’s really not much to discuss further than that. Does it make you evil to use it though? No, that’s where context comes into play.

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