Can we finally fix Mutilate BS

[Wavé-living-flame]

@Loktharen-lava-lash

I use this build https:// www.wowhead.com/classic/talent-calc/rogue/005-02330500205001-05

Yet you didn’t bother taking 50% OH damage in combat tree. Muti hits with both daggers + X with each weapon. More damage → Higher Crits → less GCDs needed to kill people.
And you pick Lightning Reflexes for warriors to get an additional 3% chance to get their overpower from? You literally play a build that is designed to fail.

@Loktharen-lava-lash

which is greatly better tradeoff than “if you get a last hit on enemy” gives you 40% for next attack. you know what people do in BG? I bring enemy down to 200 hp and some stupid priest just SWD them.

Considering that you literally played yourself by greeding for crit when Mutilate does 2 attacks per 40energy, where your offhand literally hits close to nothing where people have to care about. You lack actual damage from OH dagger.

Nowonder why you could never get any killingblows and struggle against classes that you should obviously beat. Lacking increased DR on Gauge for potential followup or bandaging chances doesn’t help either.

@Loktharen-lava-lash

in every guild gnomer run I have the second highest overall damage (including the AoE clearing trash). Only warrior, ele shaman and melee hunter beat me sometimes, depending on the boss.

Would be impressive if you had anything to back this up, but even if this is true, these people aren’t carrying their weight as they should.

@Loktharen-lava-lash

You just showed me that you have no knowledge of the class and just refer to others that blindly copy some wow celebrities that state something without experimenting themselves. Its like buying something because a influencer told so xD

After your talent selection for PvP and no backing up of your claim being snd highest in Gnomeregan you clearly showed that you have no clue about your own simplistic class.
Noone ever picks Lightning Reflexes in PvP, it’s always Imp Gauge/SS.
You skipped free 50% OH damage talent for 5% crit when you have daggers, even when Mutilate hits with MH and OH.
What the heck you talking about with Influencers? You should really start checking out your class discord before you post anything again. They give you free help and have run toomany damage simulations to care about to maximize their DPS output in this cursed raidtier with high armor bosses.

@Loktharen-lava-lash

Those rogues are also the ones that end up on the mid-to low range of DPS meters and statistics.

More chitchat from someone that doesn’t even have logs. I can say with confidence that a good bunch of the rogue discord has better damage than you in Gnomeregan. Especially how you put talents and struggle against classes which any competent rogue should win against.

I’m not gonna respond to the damage points you hit on certain classes, because lacking free damage from certain talents that normal PvP rogues run is just hindering yourself.

@Loktharen-lava-lash

Since we dont have heal, dont have spell resits, cannot dispell, dont have proper ranged attack, dont have spell damage to counter armor,

Seriously? This is literally the dumbest I’ve heard, you claim I have no experience in playing Rogue and listen to the influencers, yet here’s you making stuff up.

• You can heal with bandages/healthpotions, you got a dot? Tough luck.
• people mostly do not have enough hit to land their spells in a PvP enviroment + 1% miss will always stay.
• you don’t need a dispel in the form of CoS, most rogues will literally tear you apart even without.
• your ranged attacks are Between the Eyes/Shadowstep/Quick Draw/Blind???
• Envenom damage is poison based, poison being nature damage, which is spell damage at the end of the day and even if you run Between the Eyes, you still have expose armor. (Later on you get Hemorrage)